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Twist and Gel and Wax question

☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,640 posts

nah u couldnt and no they dont they have no personality ..no "face"

no uniqueness

and yea i have plenty of experience with your hair type

and the severe issues twisting causes

lets see a closeup of your scalp




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My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1

updated by @soaring-eagle: 07/19/15 09:48:51AM
Melanie Barrett
@melanie-barrett
13 years ago
6 posts

i had a mixed friend whose hair had a few different textures on different parts of his scalp. to get it to stay twisted in the slicker parts we let it section itself for a few days and then loosely braided the base of the areas (very loosely, only 4 or 5 crossovers and not so tight that it actually looks braided) that were holding together and then twisted the ends into coils with a little bit of pure aloe vera. after a week or so the coils started dreading even though they looked loose at first You don't want to braid a long section or it will look thinner at that point and will be noticeable when they grow out. Well- maintained beginning locs is an oxymoron...It's not an instant hairstyle, it needs to develop organically and the best way to do it is to let the hair section itself in the beginning according to your growth pattern and the planes of your skull. if you section it with a comb you might be forcing hair that grows in different directions into one dread and i have had some friends whose scalp ended up getting irritated from that and ended up losing dreads from the roots being stressed in directions they didn't naturally grow. if you want an instant hairstyle and don't plan on keeping your locs for any length of time a loctician might get you close to what you want but if you want long lasting locs that arent just a fad it takes time and patience.

my husband is jamaican mixed with a little bit of island native... his hair is in really tight curls in some places with almost straight hair mixed in. were starting his hair by twisting the sections that are already separating themselves and back combing just a tiny bit with a natural boar bristle brush, not a comb or anything plastic or metal. it mixes the hairs together enough to make them hold onto each other but doesn't damage the surfaces of the hair shafts.

☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,640 posts

well said

all haior knows how to dread if u let it dread it dreads perfectly for your head ..briute force dreading isnt dreading its forcing the hair to look like dreads dreads only happen by leaving them alone




--
My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
Melanie Barrett
@melanie-barrett
13 years ago
6 posts

ive noticed that one of the main problems with twisting and mixed hair textures is the base getting puffy and then the whole twist falling apart. if you look at people with curly hair's scalp when their hair is very short you can see that the hair shafts lie in every direction and most hairs come out of the scalp sideways instead of straight out like straight hair. the pattern is almost like a bunch of swirls with some people. if you force the hair to go in a different direction than it naturally grows you can get the little bumps so bad your scalp will weep and get crusty like a baby with crib cap. your body's natural reaction to stress on the root is to produce more oil than normal and to become inflamed, tender and itchy.

if you can find some tea tree oil you can make your own spray to keep your scalp fresh by mixing it with water and maybe a little bit of virgin coconut oil and aloe vera juice (you can get those from whole foods or the vitamin store). if you don't have a medicinal herb store near you our local store does online orders - www.herbsandarts.net . i havent looked at their site lately cuz i usually go in person but if you call them they will answer any questions you have and can process your order over the phone. my friend mave is a master herbalist and makes all their herbal extracts, oils and blends. they have dried herbs in bulk if you want to get some oil and make your own herb infused oils also. if you call the store she is usually there or they can tell you when she will be in. the owner Kaywynn has really long dreads too so she might be able to tell you some of the things she uses.

if you want to get the wax and product buildup out you can use baking soda. it completely breaks down grease and bonds to it so it can rinse out but then you should spray on some hemp oil or a little coconut oil mixed with water on the roots so your scalp doesn't get dry afterwards. All the wax and buildup is holding grime, dust and lint in there and your dreads can start stinkin like mildew or rancid oil after a while if you never wash that stuff out. i used to use wax and to get the buildup out i took a whole small box of baking soda, added enough water to make a smooth paste to the point where there was a little bit of water on top and then put it on my hair in handfuls and worked it through each dread. Palmroll and massage it in with your fingertips to get it all the way into the middle. You want to rinse it out really well too because residue will turn white when it dries. Completely soak your hair in the bathtub underwater if you can to get all the wax out of the middle too. If theres a lot of buildup you might have to do it a few times. Your hair will feel squeaky clean when you get all the product out. You can do a coffee rinse afterwards to make your hair shiny again if you want.

Joe Shmoe
@joe-shmoe
13 years ago
15 posts
If by personality and uniqueness you are referring to locs that look unkempt and have varying sizes/thicknesses then no, mine are def lacking that. If that's the look you are going for, more power to u but that doesn't work for me; I like more of a maintained look.Ill get that close-up pic uploaded tonight.
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,640 posts

i mean dreads that look like dreads..real dreads not fake manufactured dreads they dioo not look unkempt they look real dreads are not all the same size all without personality

those are imitations of dreads




--
My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
Joe Shmoe
@joe-shmoe
13 years ago
15 posts
Melanie: regarding the issue of the twist getting puffy @ the base and coming undone w/ mixed hair the key to getting them to keep their form is clips + a blwdryer. Apply the gel when the hair is damp, twist then put it in a clip. Then blowdry until the gel is dry and the hair is set. The twist will then hold up 100% better.
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,640 posts

yea because they are hardened in gunk unable to move unable to dread brilliant idea they need to get puffy they need to be soft to dread right

if yuou keep them hardened in gunk they will not dread

dude i wouldnt be guiving advice when u do it all wrong




--
My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,640 posts

great info i didnt know baking soda when that strong would remove wax thats why we recomend orange oil wich dissolves all the gunk

but you know what your talking about ;)


Melanie Barrett said:

ive noticed that one of the main problems with twisting and mixed hair textures is the base getting puffy and then the whole twist falling apart. if you look at people with curly hair's scalp when their hair is very short you can see that the hair shafts lie in every direction and most hairs come out of the scalp sideways instead of straight out like straight hair. the pattern is almost like a bunch of swirls with some people. if you force the hair to go in a different direction than it naturally grows you can get the little bumps so bad your scalp will weep and get crusty like a baby with crib cap. your body's natural reaction to stress on the root is to produce more oil than normal and to become inflamed, tender and itchy.

if you can find some tea tree oil you can make your own spray to keep your scalp fresh by mixing it with water and maybe a little bit of virgin coconut oil and aloe vera juice (you can get those from whole foods or the vitamin store). if you don't have a medicinal herb store near you our local store does online orders - www.herbsandarts.net . i havent looked at their site lately cuz i usually go in person but if you call them they will answer any questions you have and can process your order over the phone. my friend mave is a master herbalist and makes all their herbal extracts, oils and blends. they have dried herbs in bulk if you want to get some oil and make your own herb infused oils also. if you call the store she is usually there or they can tell you when she will be in. the owner Kaywynn has really long dreads too so she might be able to tell you some of the things she uses.

if you want to get the wax and product buildup out you can use baking soda. it completely breaks down grease and bonds to it so it can rinse out but then you should spray on some hemp oil or a little coconut oil mixed with water on the roots so your scalp doesn't get dry afterwards. All the wax and buildup is holding grime, dust and lint in there and your dreads can start stinkin like mildew or rancid oil after a while if you never wash that stuff out. i used to use wax and to get the buildup out i took a whole small box of baking soda, added enough water to make a smooth paste to the point where there was a little bit of water on top and then put it on my hair in handfuls and worked it through each dread. Palmroll and massage it in with your fingertips to get it all the way into the middle. You want to rinse it out really well too because residue will turn white when it dries. Completely soak your hair in the bathtub underwater if you can to get all the wax out of the middle too. If theres a lot of buildup you might have to do it a few times. Your hair will feel squeaky clean when you get all the product out. You can do a coffee rinse afterwards to make your hair shiny again if you want.




--
My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
Joe Shmoe
@joe-shmoe
13 years ago
15 posts
Well then I guess I have fake manufactured dreads according to ur standards. Its fine w/ me, that's how I like them, and from the amt of compliments I get on them other people like my "imitation " dreads too. And yes, ur dreads def do look unkempt; then again what do u expect when u do absolutely no maintenance on them? As I said before, to each his own-what works for u def doesn't wrk for me and visee versa. We're just going to have to agree to disagree....
 
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