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☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
i thought it was youbut jellyquestionhow can ya be so sure ya wont feel that way if u try it if ya never actualy tried?thats like sayin hell no ill never like smoking pot pots for losers i dint need to try it to know that..but then what happens when yatry it? ..yup most like itofcourse a try has to be sincere..months at least..or a yeartheres gotta be a reason why so many who try it become totaly convinced its the right wayto go right?


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☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
by that logic we might as wekll let montserat take over the world and make every lil bot of food we eat geneeticly modified or, for that matter stop eatting and take an injection of chemical nutrients instead..then just trick our minds into thinking its good for us..after all dupont and montserat ssays chemicals are our freindsfor decades we were force fed the fda rda's insisting we needed so much meat in our diets now its an unquestioned reality to most we believe we need meat in order to feel right..so thats our reality untill we question it and try a diferent reality only then can we judge the truth for ourselves


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Matted Dew
@matted-dew
15 years ago
213 posts
I would just like to start out by sayin that i give mad props to vegans/ veggies for multiple reasons, however, its not my cup of tea.I have read through multiple studies bout how very important meat played in a role of (that evil word) Evolution.you should read up about it if your interested...very intruiging stuff... http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html to sumwhat sum it up- without some nomad having the random idea to throw sum meat on a fire (thus cooking), our brains would not have evoled to the state that our brains function at today...blahblah blah wordy wordy words...hahahhahahNamaste
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@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
thast was the beginning of the weakening of the species thoughfrom that point on we slowly became an unatural species much like the modern cow..cows cannor survive without humans to milk them, ewell we did much the same to ourselves from that point in we cannot survive in our natural environment without the assistance of technologies and shelterbtw that right there is the proof that we are not meant to est meat..we cant eat it without throwing it on a fire..all natural carnivores/omnivores can eat raw flesh right off the bone..all except scavangers can kill with teeth and claws..we cantour hands are made for picking fruites and nuts leaves and at most rootswe are exrtremely poorly designed to try ripping the flesh off a living animalalso we cant eat a rotting corpse either without becomming illso its very odvios that by design we were never meant to eat meatwe were able to addapt however, possibly out of desperation we were forced tobut..that in no way means its what is right for usi forget what country it is perhaps india where due to massinve hunger they began to eat a nutrient rich clay..basicly a rock..its sold in a hard brick and you scrape off chuncks and crunch em upthey were able to addapt to eatting rocks..but..does that mean rocks are a part of the natural human diet? or that its the best thing for them? Matted Dew said:
I would just like to start out by sayin that i give mad props to vegans/ veggies for multiple reasons, however, its not my cup of tea.
I have read through multiple studies bout how very important meat played in a role of (that evil word) Evolution.
you should read up about it if your interested...very intruiging stuff...

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
to sumwhat sum it up- without some nomad having the random idea to throw sum meat on a fire (thus cooking), our brains would not have evoled to the state that our brains function at today...blahblah blah wordy wordy words...
hahahhahah

Namaste



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My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
Matted Dew
@matted-dew
15 years ago
213 posts
Welllll if it werent for cooked meat then we would still be running around hunting/gathering and deffinatly not typing on a computer talking to people halfway accross the country/globe hahahha, I'd be totally down for that but...hahaha ehhhIf our true natural way to eat was fruit/berries/roots then how would we have ate Watermelon( THE BEST FRUIT!hahah jk but almost)? and roots would also be a natually hard thing to go about obtaining wiht out our modern toolsEither way without some random dood cooking meat our brains would not have evolved into the way we know them now,Which now that i think about it MIGHT have been good....hahahh, thanks tho fer the providng me with the 'other' way of lookin at that fact about cookedmeat/brainevolution SENamaste soaringeagle said:
thast was the beginning of the weakening of the species though
from that point on we slowly became an unatural species much like the modern cow..cows cannor survive without humans to milk them, ewell we did much the same to ourselves from that point in we cannot survive in our natural environment without the assistance of technologies and shelter
btw that right there is the proof that we are not meant to est meat..we cant eat it without throwing it on a fire..all natural carnivores/omnivores can eat raw flesh right off the bone..all except scavangers can kill with teeth and claws..
we cant
our hands are made for picking fruites and nuts leaves and at most roots
we are exrtremely poorly designed to try ripping the flesh off a living animal
also we cant eat a rotting corpse either without becomming ill
so its very odvios that by design we were never meant to eat meat
we were able to addapt however, possibly out of desperation we were forced to
but..that in no way means its what is right for us
i forget what country it is perhaps india where due to massinve hunger they began to eat a nutrient rich clay..basicly a rock..its sold in a hard brick and you scrape off chuncks and crunch em up
they were able to addapt to eatting rocks..but..does that mean rocks are a part of the natural human diet? or that its the best thing for them?

Matted Dew said:
I would just like to start out by sayin that i give mad props to vegans/ veggies for multiple reasons, however, its not my cup of tea.
I have read through multiple studies bout how very important meat played in a role of (that evil word) Evolution.
you should read up about it if your interested...very intruiging stuff...

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
to sumwhat sum it up- without some nomad having the random idea to throw sum meat on a fire (thus cooking), our brains would not have evoled to the state that our brains function at today...blahblah blah wordy wordy words...
hahahhahah

Namaste
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
it wouyld have been goodbut i definately dont think eatting meat affected our brain development..being that it was basicly a toxin we were bareky able to adapt to out of nesesity ot would more then likely slow the developmentunless ya concider a larger brain as a sorta cancerouse overgrowthwhicvh in a way would make sence i mean..do animals suffer from mental illnesses? psychosis depression multiple personalities..have ya ever met a dog that was convinced it wass god?perhaps the overgrowrth of our brains was a condition of diseasei mean..who do u know who is truly comopletely sane withiut any mental issuesour brains are so messed up that we had to come up with thousands of disorders to explain allthe ways wre messed upa big brain just means more brain to go insane


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Matted Dew
@matted-dew
15 years ago
213 posts
i totally agree with yah on the bigger brain, the bigger problems, and all the BS titles doctors try and put on being not normal...Either way I'm jus goin to agree to disagree wiht u cuz it's a purdy said fact that our brains develloped greatly from eating cooked meat, it's sum scientifc shwat about the meat being cooked brings out these necessary proteins that allowed or brains to deveop the frontal lobe more indepthly (or sumthin to that affect) hahahahha!nams soaringeagle said:
it wouyld have been good
but i definately dont think eatting meat affected our brain development..being that it was basicly a toxin we were bareky able to adapt to out of nesesity ot would more then likely slow the development
unless ya concider a larger brain as a sorta cancerouse overgrowth
whicvh in a way would make sence i mean..do animals suffer from mental illnesses? psychosis depression multiple personalities..have ya ever met a dog that was convinced it wass god?
perhaps the overgrowrth of our brains was a condition of disease
i mean..who do u know who is truly comopletely sane withiut any mental issues
our brains are so messed up that we had to come up with thousands of disorders to explain allthe ways wre messed up
a big brain just means more brain to go insane
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
scientific study or pr bullshitu ever wonder why everry week on the news theres a new story like "scientists recently discoverted that ...(eggs wine milk steak whatever) gives so miraculouse benifit 1 weeek carbs grains and nuts cyre cancer the next week tobaco canabilism and blood sucking are good for the heart..(ok extreme exageration but ya get the point) thewse so called news reports are actualy ads bought by pr firms made to look like news, they always use stock footage thats very generic, dont quote sources and dont interview anyone..theyre just made to look likere scientific studies to sell ya on products..in this case..meatthe truth is they cant really trace what caused out brain development to any 1 factor..thats why alot of scientists believe in alien intervention..genetic seeding by an akien raceif cooking meat did have anything to do with it it would be much more likely that discovering fire and learning how to use itt as a tool lead to excercizing the brain and discovering other useful thingscorrect me if im wrong..but..wasnt einstein a vegatarian all his life?i think i heard that anywaysand didnt civilization first begin in arabain and india which for thousands of yours.,possibly always have been mostly veg? (i have no daya on this but think egypt too, just based on seeing hiroglyphics of farming veggies aklong the nile flood planes but never seeing anything bout hunting or farm animals)to me it would seej the oposites true, during the drk ages and the crusades which were very barbaric, meat consumption was the norm..and ppl were killed if they had an original thought (like the earth revolves ariund the sun)the more i think about it the more i believe meat consumption slowed the advancement in scientific discovery Matted Dew said:
i totally agree with yah on the bigger brain, the bigger problems, and all the BS titles doctors try and put on being not normal...
Either way I'm jus goin to agree to disagree wiht u cuz it's a purdy said fact that our brains develloped greatly from eating cooked meat, it's sum scientifc shwat about the meat being cooked brings out these necessary proteins that allowed or brains to deveop the frontal lobe more indepthly (or sumthin to that affect) hahahahha!
nams
soaringeagle said:
it wouyld have been good
but i definately dont think eatting meat affected our brain development..being that it was basicly a toxin we were bareky able to adapt to out of nesesity ot would more then likely slow the development
unless ya concider a larger brain as a sorta cancerouse overgrowth
whicvh in a way would make sence i mean..do animals suffer from mental illnesses? psychosis depression multiple personalities..have ya ever met a dog that was convinced it wass god?
perhaps the overgrowrth of our brains was a condition of disease
i mean..who do u know who is truly comopletely sane withiut any mental issues
our brains are so messed up that we had to come up with thousands of disorders to explain allthe ways wre messed up
a big brain just means more brain to go insane



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My new book Ban The Taboo Vol 1
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
15 years ago
29,640 posts
ok i just read that article which makes no sence at alllets look at nutrientsthe source of all nutrients is sun and soilfrom sun and soil plants extract what they need and create more complex nutrientsanimals then eat the plants and produce nutrients in theyre bodies, much of which is burned off just keeping them alive so needs constant replenishmentcarnivores (true carnivores) get they nutrient second hand by consuming meat.. 1 killed animal is 1 meal..that 1 meal had to consume thousands of meals of plant life to provide enough nutrients in its body to sustain a carnivore for 1 day..to say there wouldnt be enough plant life to get the nutrients needed to develop our brains is saying there wouldnt be enough plany6t life to have any animals survive there to huntlets look at the food situation in the world todayif there was a 20% reduction in the meat industry.. that would mean millions of tons of grains and veggies that go tio feeding cattle and chickens would be freed uo for peoplenot only that but.. millions of acres are used for cattle herds to produce a relatively small amount of food, if those same acres were used to produce veggies combine that with the food taken away from feeding cattle and guess what that would do to the world hunger situation?thats right there would be a massive surplus of foodmore farms that ya see today grow food for cattle then grow food for people1 cow eats many many tons of grain a year..every year for maybe 5-10 years before being slaughtered to get 800 pounds or so of beefthe food fed ti keep 1 cow alive a year could keep 10 people alive a yeareverything about that article is flawedthere just would be no game to hunt if there was no vegetation for animals to feed oncarnivores can hunt carnivores of course and get the nutrients 3rd hand but if there were only carnivores there would be no inflow of nutrients at all and the whole food chain would collapse


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Matted Dew
@matted-dew
15 years ago
213 posts
The article nor me are trying to promote full out CARNivorism(SP) but to say that alien intervention is more propable than a scientific proven facet is just...well...absurd,we could sit here and argue back and forth on our own views for daze probably; therefore im simply guna tip my hat to you SE and agree to disagreeNamsoh yah and i completly agree with u on the absurtity of our modern meat industry, it is a terrible beast that has been released on our societies,jus another thing that people will continue to bank on until everyone wakes up...hopefully soon,2012 here we comeeee hahahah soaringeagle said:
ok i just read that aetifcle which makes no sence at all

lets look at nutrients
the source of all nutrientws is sun and soil
from sun and soil plants extract what they need and create more complex nutrients
animals then eat the plants and produce nutrients in theyre bodies, much of which is burned off just keeping them awlive so needs constant replenishment
carnivores (true carnivores) get they nutriente second hand by consumming meat.. 1 killed animal is 1 meal..that 1 meal had to consume thousands of meals of plant life to provide enough nutrients in ites bodt to sustain a fcarnivore for 1 day..
to say there wouldnt be enough plant life to get the nutrients needed to develop our brains is saying there wouldnt be enough plany6t life to have any animals survive there to hunt

lets look at the food situation in the world todsay

if ther was a 20% reduction in the meat industry.. that would mean millions of tons of grains and veggies that go tio feeding cattle and chickens would be freed uo for people
not only that but.. millions of acres are used for cattle herds to produce a reklatively small amount of food, if those same acres were used to produce veggies combine that with the food taken away from feeding cattle and guess whatr that would do to the world hunger situation?
thats right there would be a massive surplus of food
more farms that ya see today grow food for cattle then grow food for people
1 cow eats many many tons of grain a year..every yewar for maybe 5-10 years before being slaughtered to get 800 pounds or so of beef
the food fed ti keep 1 cow alive a year could keep 10 people alive a year

everything about that article is flawed
there just would be no game to hunt if there was no vegatation for animals to feed on
carnivores can hunt carnivores ofcourse and get the nutrients 3rd hand but if there were only carnivores there would be no inflow of nutrients at all and the whole food chainwould collapse
 
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