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teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Hi Guysyes im still around despite the roasting i'm getting which i do think is a little unfair as my whole life is dreads and making them nice. I do accept a lot of what you say and will be careful to say use sparingly. When i do customers hair i put wax on to begin with and recommend they wax once or twice a month. You will disagree with this but everyone is entitled to opinions.The real clincher for me and considering i have done HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of dreads is when people come to me for maintenance for the first time most of the time their dreads are a complete matted mess from root to end. After a maintenance session with me and yes advice on some products their dreads look great. Then when they return for a tidy say 6months, a year later their dreads look fine the only work needed is tidying up their roots. The rest of their dread is smooth light and spongey not heavey and waxey.Another point is when i tidy my own roots with a crotchet hook i put a small cuff of wax on and a rubber band for a week. When the rubber band comes off the wax is pretty much unoticable and the roots stay tidied. If i do not put wax on i find the loose hair quickly comes back out.I have added a note about this on my site see http://www.alteredstatesuk.com/product_info.php?products_id=43 and http://www.alteredstatesuk.com/product_info.php?products_id=355 And lastly if a customer asks me not to use wax then i respect their opinion.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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i think this goes back to the argument of spiritual or simply fashionable resons for dreads. i accept your views perhaps you could try to accept just a little bit mine? any how. i feel like we are going in circles so over and out. For now @;-)

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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well no this doesn't look good it looks rubbish. i think we are basically arguing the same point. i see so many attempts at dreads that do not actually dread the hair they artifically sculpt the hair into looking like dreads. I see stuff like super glue, beeswax, window sealent. I agree these are Vbad. Dh wax and kb wax are not in this catagory. We are never gonna agree on this. Once dreads are matured there is no need to wash them at all. Apart from when attending to roots.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Do we have any pictures of the middle of dreads that have never been waxed?Importantly doesn't the out side of the dread look good and neat?

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Ok wow tension in the room. The name wax is slightly missleading. It is not pure wax and DOES wash out. The wax holds the hair in place long enough for it to retain memory like using straighteners. Then it washes out. With respect if you have not used product on your hair for 20 years how can you comment on this?(pure beeswax never comes out. I know i had this in to begin with first and had to slowley vut it out) soaringeagle said:

how is it positive when wax ..even just 1 application slows the dreading process and ..never comes out
and dont try lying and saying it washes out when wax by the nature of wax is waterproof and has been known to not wash out after many many years of washing

how is it "benificial" to add a residue when only non residue soaps are recomemded


the only "benifit" is in the veryu 1st day and to your profit margin..the only benifit is in looking less fuzzy for a day so you can claim to have done a excelent job



Altered_alex said:

Yea no problem i would love to stick around. Experience with wax in my opinion is if used sparingly and by wax i mean dh or knottyboy wax definately not pure beeswax!! is positive. i would invite opinions from people who have had a bad time with this.

Anubis said:

Preferably, I'd like you to stick around(pun intended) and read many of the personal statements about wax that we have on this site and then make your decision whether you want to endorse it or not. If you are of the same 'Altered State' that I remembered hearing about way back while reading on other forums then I hope you are still a fair company that will give honest descriptions of the products you endorse and stick(again =p) to the ones that can be a positive influence on the people that use them.

Altered_alex said:

Hi Guys
I am the owner of the site alteredstatesuk.com i do endorse the products from dreadhead and knottyboy. I think wax definately has a place in aiding dreadlock creation and maturation. The wax from these companies are soft and comes out when washed using an apropriate shampoo and hot water. Howver do not over wax of it can build up and be just as much a hinderance to dreads.

I do not sell the dreadhead lock tools as they are not good for dreads they can blow holes in them. The best and only tool to really tidy up dreads is a 0.75 crotchet hook see
http://www.alteredstatesuk.com/customer-gallery/index.php?action=br...
for an example of my work.

We have over 5 years exerience of doing peoples dreadlocks and have seen hundreds of people. We are always open to other points of views.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Yea no problem i would love to stick around. Experience with wax in my opinion is if used sparingly and by wax i mean dh or knottyboy wax definately not pure beeswax!! is positive. i would invite opinions from people who have had a bad time with this. Anubis said:

Preferably, I'd like you to stick around(pun intended) and read many of the personal statements about wax that we have on this site and then make your decision whether you want to endorse it or not. If you are of the same 'Altered State' that I remembered hearing about way back while reading on other forums then I hope you are still a fair company that will give honest descriptions of the products you endorse and stick(again =p) to the ones that can be a positive influence on the people that use them.

Altered_alex said:

Hi Guys
I am the owner of the site alteredstatesuk.com i do endorse the products from dreadhead and knottyboy. I think wax definately has a place in aiding dreadlock creation and maturation. The wax from these companies are soft and comes out when washed using an apropriate shampoo and hot water. Howver do not over wax of it can build up and be just as much a hinderance to dreads.

I do not sell the dreadhead lock tools as they are not good for dreads they can blow holes in them. The best and only tool to really tidy up dreads is a 0.75 crotchet hook see
http://www.alteredstatesuk.com/customer-gallery/index.php?action=br...
for an example of my work.

We have over 5 years exerience of doing peoples dreadlocks and have seen hundreds of people. We are always open to other points of views.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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hey AnubisI think $250 is not a bad price is done properly and this is the most important thing. SOOO much of my work is repairing jobs of bad salons. I totaly agree there is lots of salons that do not have a clue. If done properly however dreads will last as long as you want them. They will certainly not need to be cut off.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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The salon aproach is about instantly looking good. However what is wrong with this? Dreadlocks don't need to be such a long term inestment. Dreads can look good straight away. Although they will always look better the longer you have them. This doesn't mean they won't last however. Why would it? I think the issue at hand here is more of thwe mind set behind getting dreadlocks. I apreaciate that for a a lot of people it is a deeply spiritual path. However for some it is just a funky hair style. Can both not co- exist? soaringeagle said:

yes yes yes that is exactly the issue i have with salon dreads ..its all about looking good right away but the dreads end up being throw away dreads you woerk and work and work at making em look a certain wayy and then they either mold up and turn gross or break off
the whole salon dreasd philosophy is instant gratification at the sacrifice of longevity

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Hi ThereThat is your opinion and valid. I wonder why you become angry about it though. Surely it is upto an individual to have free choice. Like any hair cut there are different ways to go about it. We find using products give excellent long lasting results as our returning customers can testify to. Sister Rags said:

I find myself feeling angry about this subject - then I feel bad because I feel angry. But maybe the anger is a good thing ultimately, because I feel more strongly inspired to let folks know that dreads are not something you BUY.

teach a teacher about dreads and dread wax

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Hi GuysI am the owner of the site alteredstatesuk.com i do endorse the products from dreadhead and knottyboy. I think wax definately has a place in aiding dreadlock creation and maturation. The wax from these companies are soft and comes out when washed using an apropriate shampoo and hot water. Howver do not over wax of it can build up and be just as much a hinderance to dreads.I do not sell the dreadhead lock tools as they are not good for dreads they can blow holes in them. The best and only tool to really tidy up dreads is a 0.75 crotchet hook see http://www.alteredstatesuk.com/customer-gallery/index.php?action=browse-gallery&galleryID=143&rd=/customer-gallery/index.php?keywords=angus&x=0&y=0&search=1 for an example of my work.We have over 5 years exerience of doing peoples dreadlocks and have seen hundreds of people. We are always open to other points of views.