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Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

I was going to suggest putting together a youtube video. I have a channel, that I've done nothing with due to the lack a good source of recording, but I now have a webcam, not the greatest, but it will get the point across I think. I can record something either sunday or monday if you would like me to. I can make it either instructive, or like a Q and A type thing or both. Let me know what you think.

soaring eagle said:

hopefully they will be willing to learn

we had talked about collecting a truck load of cut off waxy dreads to bury jonny cleans house in a mountain of sticky dreads

but i like the pamphlets better if they are gonna concider what they say

perhaps we coulpd start with just a youtube video and try to educate some of the ones on there 1st since they ar some of the worse

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

you guys have such great suggestions!! I will email Tabatha, and a few of the other well known stylists'. I will also email Behind The Chair Magazine. We will get the word out some way for sure! In order to demo at a hair show, you must be a platform artist, and work for one of the big name companies. BUT, I promise I wont give up with trying to get the word out there.

Valrie said:

Oh... waitaminute. Maybe you can see about doing a demo at a hair show? Do you have many shows in your area? Perhaps demoing the TnR method while explaining the various methods, what works best to achieve healthier locks, and what to avoid?

Also, perhaps some of the higher profile stylist, such as Coffey, can be written letters about this issue in the hopes of more updated dreadlocking education.

Stephani said:

a pamphlet is a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely bring that up with them. That school is going to be so sick of me that they may just bend the rules and let me teach a class just to get me to shut up about it lol.

Oh I know! Seriously, that bill was just absurd. I can't even begin to explain how infuriated I was about it all. It wa a pretty big deal, Tabatha Coffey even got involved. r/>

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

a pamphlet is a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely bring that up with them. That school is going to be so sick of me that they may just bend the rules and let me teach a class just to get me to shut up about it lol.Oh I know! Seriously, that bill was just absurd. I can't even begin to explain how infuriated I was about it all. It wa a pretty big deal, Tabatha Coffey even got involved. r/> Valrie said:

Perhaps if you can't teach at the school would they be willing to give out pamphlets regarding dreadlocks during that particular session?

I went to an absolutely HORRENDOUS beauty school and eventually was forced to drop out, 300 hours away from graduating. I just couldn't stand it! When I was a student there, I was showing other student how to make dreadlock extensions because I was wearing them at the time. My particular school DID NOT teach dreadlocks, even as an additional class (I actually had to pay extra to get certified in Japanese hair straightening techniques as well as Braids and Extensions (weaves) and this was back in 2005.

When looking up information about dreadlocks at that time, all I could find was backcomb w/beesewax, egg white wash, locking gels, glue and dread perms (I only recently heard of crocheting - sorry, my hooks are precious and used for YARN ONLY! - and root interlocking as well as the TnR method - which I showed one of my stylist friends from school.) Also, one of the popular stylist sites that I would visit was Hair Police . I just popped over to the site and they actually do dread perms with regular maintenance (which isn't stated) but won't use wax or any of the nasty goopy products.

I feel bad and I can completely empathize with your stance, Stephani, since hairdressers are the product of their education, which is definitely outdated (I still can't believe finger waves are a state board requirement!)

The other thing that is ridiculous is reading about that law that your state almost passed. The state board exam's main focus is client safety - how can they say that being a hair stylist is not dangerous to clients?! They obviously never had a lye-based relaxer on their hair. :P

updated by @stephani: 07/22/15 07:28:09AM

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

oh wow!! Those women sound truly crazy! I'm pretty sure they just wanted the drama and attention. r/>
soaring eagle said:

get this..weirdsistas joined here.. every single 1 that works for them.. they set up a group called the sistas system or something and were spamming their crap.. they lied to me telling me they hatyed crochet cause it was so harmful.. later when i posted about crochet being harmful they started arguing caus it turned out their secret weavu[ing techb=nique was the harmful crochet thety hated.. so all kinds of craziness started thet had 1 add show up on my site so they claimed they owned my site i blocked their ads and had to ban 1.. who then told me she called the cops on me.. for saying cri[ochets bad ..yea called the cops in austrailia about a guy named soaringeagle in america..somewhere..lol so then she says shes got ppl spying on me on my site it gets crazier and crazier.. so my admins banned all of them..so then she sends hundreds of emails to dozens of members..oh..and put a curse on me..

all cause i said crochet was harmful..which they said too even though they used crochret

crazyyyyy

but theres alotta weirdos out there like that

Stephani said:

wow that's pretty crazy! Sadly those people will probably never learn.

soaring eagle said:

you could offer it then

what gets me is all these "pattented" dreads

like sisterlocks and nappylocks went to court over them pattenting interlocking then the weird sistas claimed to have a top secret patented weaving technique..wucj=h turned out to v]=be crocheting

and in i think virginia 1 salon patentred the term loctician just to prevent any other stylist in the state friom claiming to be a loctician

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

Hey! That is a beautiful lake!! You are lucky to have grown up there.
Timmy Kehoe said:

Totally off topic but hey Hoosier I grew up on lake Wawasee

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

wow that's pretty crazy! Sadly those people will probably never learn.

soaring eagle said:

you could offer it then

what gets me is all these "pattented" dreads

like sisterlocks and nappylocks went to court over them pattenting interlocking then the weird sistas claimed to have a top secret patented weaving technique..wucj=h turned out to v]=be crocheting

and in i think virginia 1 salon patentred the term loctician just to prevent any other stylist in the state friom claiming to be a loctician

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

I work in a small town next to a decent sized city in Indiana lol, New Haven. Our salon has a Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/CreativeCutsNH

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

I have heard of States that offer things like that. A few months ago the state of Indiana (in which I live and work) tried to pass a House Bill that would make it possible for anyone to become a hairstylist. They stated is was not necessary to be educated in the of hair, because what we do "isn't life threatening". If that Bill had passed, they would've taken away all of our licenses. I went to the capital the day they were deciding this and spoke in front of the board. Because of mine and other stylists testimonies, they killed the Bill. I am so happy I do not work in a State that would allow just a certificate for something like that.

soaring eagle said:

gotta respect ya alot for that

its not only students that are cocky tho

i guess in dread salons its a lil different too cause manmy of em dont require cosmotology trainung just loctician traing andsome states dont even require any training others u need a braiders liscence so you really dont need any education on hair care at all just dreading techniques most of which are wrong

so you take your course.. a few hours training in a specific technique like sisterlocks traing you get your interlocking kit and think yu know everything there is to know about dreads..and they go into a salon or start 1 in their basement they dont lose the cockiness cause they arent in a full salon setting with far more experienced stylists to put thenm in their place

Stephani said:

I can tell you from my 6 years in this industry, students are extremely cocky. They do think they know everything, until the day they step foot in a salon on their first day of work. That's when they become a "deer in head lights", and realize they really know nothing at all, and everything they were taught was dated and aged by about 30 years. One thing every Hairdresser has to learn is that, you will not ever get anywhere if you always do what you've always done. I will never claim to know everything there is to know about my profession. I do however strive to educate myself as best I can in every form of hair styling that there is. I believe there is so much to learn in this world and I will never settle for less. Any stylist that has a passion as strong as mine for this business would say the same thing. Education is my number 1 priority in everything that I do.

soaring eagle said:

btw wouldnt reffer so many ppl to panterra for help if i didnt respect her knowledge as a hairdresser

but these days u get those who are in cosmo school not even grat]duated anjd they think they know everythung about dreads and will tell you "you cant wash them and you have to use wax" and they wont believe you if yu say otherwise

updated by @stephani: 07/22/15 07:28:10AM

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

I could do all of that. The only thing is dreads are not that popular in my area. I could totally offer all of that for the people that do come in though. I have never used wax on anyone's dreads and I promise I never will.

soaring eagle said:

to qualify we had fair but specific requit[rements and this was only related to doing dreads

only officialy offer non or low harm techniques edi]ucucate on how dreads can foem naturaly but offer twist n rip as an alternative ..dont offer wax or crochet however if the client insisted on it then you still could if you provide a written pamphlet with info on why its not recomended and get a waer signed stating you advized againsyt]t it you wouldnt have to lose business you would howver have to educate the clients on whats better alternatives and recomend proper dread care like washing

as far as maintenence you can officialy offer help with seperating congos that were neglected too long coloring ..wax removal if they had gotten waxed in the past..styling pampering ..that sorta stuff

if they request harmful maintenance again provide written reasons why its not recomended and get a signed statement satying they read and undrstood the risks

Hairstylists' and dreads...

salon and loctician dreads recovery

I can tell you from my 6 years in this industry, students are extremely cocky. They do think they know everything, until the day they step foot in a salon on their first day of work. That's when they become a "deer in head lights", and realize they really know nothing at all, and everything they were taught was dated and aged by about 30 years. One thing every Hairdresser has to learn is that, you will not ever get anywhere if you always do what you've always done. I will never claim to know everything there is to know about my profession. I do however strive to educate myself as best I can in every form of hair styling that there is. I believe there is so much to learn in this world and I will never settle for less. Any stylist that has a passion as strong as mine for this business would say the same thing. Education is my number 1 priority in everything that I do.

soaring eagle said:

btw wouldnt reffer so many ppl to panterra for help if i didnt respect her knowledge as a hairdresser

but these days u get those who are in cosmo school not even grat]duated anjd they think they know everythung about dreads and will tell you "you cant wash them and you have to use wax" and they wont believe you if yu say otherwise