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Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 5, 2010 at 12:06am

HAHA while you posted this I posted a Full term BFing discussion too!

dread gurusPermalink Reply by ☮ soaring eagle ॐ on July 5, 2010 at 12:12am

well i do think going beyongd 2 years could be good possibly but like i said ive seen it go beyond 10 even 13 years and just get into total weirdness

Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 5, 2010 at 12:15am

I'll come back and share my thoughts on the points you raised in a bit. :)

dread gurusPermalink Reply by ☮ soaring eagle ॐ on July 5, 2010 at 12:32am

ok without getting too specificf
1 woman and child (male child) she treatted the child like he wewass a perfect "devine" child a "king" who could do no wrong even tho the child who was 9 or 10 seemed way behind in development demanding bratty was always yelling ast her give me titty give me titty

now the other girl this time 13 going on 14 seems very sheltered but has alot of other weirdnesses like a sexual interest in her mom (grandfather mother asnd children are nudists too dunno if that matters) but theres like a very strange dynamic between mom and daughter and the act of breastfeeding went way beyond nourishment and in these cases ive seen there wss a very strong bond between mom and child but it also sheltered them from real bonds outsode of that, not really having freinds etc all they had was that comforting nursing as theyre only security and well at least with that 1 person i talked to development was way behind in some areas and way ahead on others and at her age just cfouldnt see how shed be able to break free of it and startt to develop more normaly

so im not critisizung full ternm breast feeding im just saying i think there has to be a point wghere u gotta say ok terms over and that probabhly shouldnt be much beyond 4

Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 5, 2010 at 1:41am

//woman and child (male child) she treatted the child like he wewass a perfect "devine" child a "king" who could do no wrong even tho the child who was 9 or 10 seemed way behind in development demanding bratty was always yelling ast her give me titty give me titty//

Sounds more like a parenting issue to me rather than a breastfeeding issue. There are a lot of bratty kids out there regardless of breastfeeding or not.

As for the other scenario I don't know the details other than what you have stated but breastfeeding has not caused strange sexual fetishes, or developmental delays (the purpose of breastfeeding is human development), in fact it seems to be the opposite, the female breast has been removed from feeding and people don't generally see breasts used in their natural function any more and it has become an over sexualized body part in society. Many people associate breastfeeding with a sexual act and some say they think mothers breastfeed for themselves as some sort of perversion but breastfeeding isn't sexy and doesn't get woman off, in fact most woman struggle with breastfeeding because of the amount of time they have to give to their children. You can't force a child to latch either and they won't over eat like they do with a bottle. It's a self-less act not a selfish one.

Most people are comfortable seeing a breast used sexually to entice consumers to buy products or in sex scenes but get all up in arms when they see a mother and child feeding. So much so breastfeeding mothers and children get escorted from public buildings and areas or have rude things said to them while they are feeding their children, shaming and humiliating them.
Lack of exposure and knowledge and media portrayal of woman are to blame for that sad occurrences.
Actually most people think the breast is a genital. LOL

On the point of breastfeeding beyond nourishment well breastfeeding is supposed to go beyond nourishment and is there as a comfort to the child and a parenting tool, it can take pain away and soothe an over stimulated child. In our western culture it is abnormal to see a baby breastfeed past a few weeks let alone a few years but world wide and historically it is normal.

The longest I have heard of breastfeeding happening is 8 years.

Typically breastfeeding happens until the child is ready to wean which is determined by the child.

Babies won't wean on their own under a year (so long as they are not using formula at all) and naturally tend to wean by four but thats not a set time limit.

Milk teeth are called milk teeth because normally children breastfed until they lost their first tooth making latching difficult to near impossible, so going by that biological fact most were weaned around the age of six. BUT some do go past that and latch despite the missing teeth.

For me personally I wouldn't breastfeed into the teen years, my daughter is 3 tomorrow and is breastfeeding, I would be happy with her weaning but she is not ready yet so I'll wait for her to be ready. My son weaned himself at 27 months. For me 4 seems like a good time to stop but who knows, things change with time and experience.

As for the woman you mentioned there are probably many factors to consider in their life style than just breastfeeding that influence the child.

Permalink Reply by ZeeFighter on July 5, 2010 at 1:46am

I think 5 tops. That is when most naturally gain independence anyways it just feels right to me. I stopped at around ten months by choice. No joke. My mom said I would no longer let her. My brothers were about three and four

Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 5, 2010 at 2:29am

Awesome, I love when I hear young woman who are going to breastfeed, sadly many today think it's gross' *shakes head*

ZuriYAH "Zii" said:

I think 5 tops. That is when most naturally gain independence anyways it just feels right to me. I stopped at around ten months by choice. No joke. My mom said I would no longer let her. My brothers were about three and four

Permalink Reply by Sinistress Ministress on July 6, 2010 at 12:05am

I breastfed my son and allowed him to wean himself much to the disdain of our pediatrician (we did switch Dr.'s) My son weaned himself at 19 1/2 months and we do indeed have a very strong bond....I would do it all over again!

Permalink Reply by Bird on July 6, 2010 at 1:44am

If I ever have a child, I will certainly let them wean themselves! Breast feeding is necessary for healthy development (imo)... the WHO recommends bfing until two now, I believe.

Also, maybe off topic, but if we as full grown adults drink the nutrients that are meant for baby cows, i see no reason why a consenting older child (okay, breast feeding at 10 or 13 is pretty creepy) shouldn't be able to nurse still. I think 4 is a good age, but let the kid decide.

Sorry, the fact that humans drink so much cow milk weirds me out... always has.

Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 6, 2010 at 2:56am

Good stuff mama and good on you for switching doctors.
It astounds me that doctors are soooo uneducated about birth and breastfeeding and yet talk so ignorantly authoritative about it.

Kimberly Smith said:

I breastfed my son and allowed him to wean himself much to the disdain of our pediatrician (we did switch Dr.'s) My son weaned himself at 19 1/2 months and we do indeed have a very strong bond....I would do it all over again!

Permalink Reply by Island Mamma on July 6, 2010 at 2:59am

Breastfeeding being healthy for human development isn't an opinion it's a proven fact!

So true about human milk and cow milk.

It is weird for humans to drink cow milk, its for an animal that has like 4 stomaches!

Most people don't even know that infant formula is cow milk fine grinded with synthetic additives and chemicals in it!

Bird said:

If I ever have a child, I will certainly let them wean themselves! Breast feeding is necessary for healthy development (imo)... the WHO recommends bfing until two now, I believe.

Also, maybe off topic, but if we as full grown adults drink the nutrients that are meant for baby cows, i see no reason why a consenting older child (okay, breast feeding at 10 or 13 is pretty creepy) shouldn't be able to nurse still. I think 4 is a good age, but let the kid decide.

Sorry, the fact that humans drink so much cow milk weirds me out... always has.

Permalink Reply by Serena Saccoccie on July 10, 2010 at 11:25am

I think that 3 or 4 is a good age, but yes I do believe it should be up to the child. When I first had my son I was young, 18, and had planned to breastfeed, I am a child of 8, my mother did all natural births with us and breast fed all of us, my parents are still together and as happy as ever, I grew up around a nurturing loving famiyl so it wasn't even really a thought if I would breastfeed or not. Anyway, in the hospital when I gave birth we were having a very hard time with the breastfeeding, he would not latch on correctly, and it was getting to be very painful I was blistering and bleeding but still kept on. One night one of the nurses came in to check on us and asked if we had made any progress and I said not really but were working on it, and she said oh well that's ok he drank a few ounces earlier when we bathed him, I saidWHAT!!! you gave him a BOTTLE?? That is not going to help him at all with latching on but rather make it harder or confuse him, and you gave him FORMULA!!! I was heated, very heated, and asked why noone came and asked me before doing that, and they had no answer for me...I think they just assumed I was a young mom and probably didn't care that much. It was very offending. Eventually we got the hang of it, but it took a few weeks and a lot fo pain. All of it was so worth it, you can't create a bond like that other then through BF, it's such a wonderful feeling to be the sole provider of nourishment through pregnancy and after.

What island mama said though about women breastfeeding out in public is so true. It was very liberating when I first fed in public, we were at the mall in the food court of course lol, Aiden got hungry, and I really didn't feel like going out to the car to feed, becaus that's what I would normally do whereever we were, but instead I stayed right where I was, the looks I got were insulting and there were some comments as well. It's like everyone in the room all of a sudden focused on me. I hope I ruined all their appetites becauase they were ruining my moment. After that though it got much easier and I learned to just pay no mind to them or give them a smile :)

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