Welcome but I think you're over-reacting, no-one is being holier-than-thou. These are facts. Ask the people who've used wax once and have washed it 'out' since then and five years later still have wax in their dreads. Or the people whose dreads have thinned, weakened and/or suddenly snapped off because of the crocheting. These aren't opinions, and these methods/products don't work for anyone. Yes, you think they work for you because they give you quick, tidy-looking dreads. But they don't create actual dreads, either. If they did, once people crocheted, they wouldn't see fuzziness and messy hair as their crocheted dreads loosen up so that they can really dread. If crocheting really dreaded hair, it'd stay more or less as it is. But it doesn't. Many people use these products and methods because, yeah, people want tidy dreads, but those people will not have dreads for long (depending on the method/product, how often it's used, etc.) simply because over time, so much damage is done that either the dreads snap off or rot away, or because there's so much build-up, so much dirt, so many issues, that the person thinks that dreads must cause all of these issues, so they comb them out and that's that.
No-one on this site stands to gain anything by telling you not to use any products. The people you buy your products from contradict themselves trying to explain why you NEED these products or why these products are super-great for dreads. So why trust the businessman more than the people who've experienced and seen first-hand all of this damage? Ask Baba Fats what his story is, he'll tell you the damage those things cause. You can find hundreds of members who've got the same story.So no, no-one is saying any of this for any reason other than to help the longevity of another head full of dreads. No arrogance, no judgment, no malice, no nothing, just help.
Anyway, whether or not you choose to listen is up to you, but I don't see the point in staying on the site and then complaining about people who are on this site to help people who are damaging their hair and may not realise it. If that makes us bad people, then I think we'll all willingly accept that title. Peace.
look im sorry if i came off as harsh we just get alot of locticians that push very harmful methods and just want to advertise and many of our members are in crochet or salon recovery so we expectthe worse when it comes to "professional dreaders" i see your here to participate and be part of the community so lets start over
but i got to also say theres a reason this sites so highly respected and why most people think i am the only one worth going to for dread advice
because we are so honnest and tell the truth about whats good for dreads we care abiut dreads not profiting from dreads many rep]ly on the prity of the info here
everything i told you is true granted i could have said it nicer like i said we expect te worse from locticians when they join
s long as u dont try pushing the harful methods your welcome here but i hope you take this opurtunity to read everyones horror stories and realize how harmfuk these nmethods are and how long it will take to recover from them
we are simply promotoing whats best for dreads whats healthiest
and dreadheadhq is the worse just read the reviews pge here
we pride ourselves on giving the best advice there is and thats the whole reason tht we are the most respected site
these are my dreads (5 years ago lot longer now)
i have never done a thing to them they are natural
natural is defined as ocurring in nature without the influence of man
by creating dreads they are not natural dreads i think some salons claim its natural idf its real hair een if permed waxed or crochetted by definitio thats not the case natural dreads just happen by alowing it to happen
now you got to admit thats healthier then crochet wich breaks tons og]f hairs or backcomb that wrecks the citicles or wax that causes them to rot
we saw 1 guy crochet weekly for 6 months then diive in a pool and have 4 dreads float away just from the impact on the water
anpther crochetted to the pint of having to put them through a sewing machine to stitch t6hem back together
even skillteacher on youtube thats responsible for the crochet epidemic pulled 1 of his wifes dreads right off while crocheting it then dared to claim it was cause it wasnt crochetted enough!
just read all the stories here of severe damage caused by it and make up your own mind we are just trying to help
u can make freinds but u gotta be open minded and realize that yes u=indeed your wrong it is rosin a tree sap and toxic at that
its actualy not a dread product at all neither is the shampoo by them the shampoo is a hunting shampoo highly toxic thats only safe to use a few times a year (since its for hunting) they define residue as scent..airborn scent thats evaporated to be smelled but then claim wax isnt residue even though its impossible to wash out lock peppa on the other hand is a cat ear hair remover its made to spray into cats ears in order to give the hair 'grip" so it can more easily be plucked out
when oput in dreads it makes a sticky grittiness that creates an ilusion of making it easier to knot.till its washed out
hows powder create knots? it cant
but it can make u believe it helps
it literaly does nothing
ofcourse if u crochet or wax it doubles the ilusion
notw crochet is well known to be destructive and ruin dreads many many many members are in crochet recover and it takes a year to recover from
i see how freindly your being
now get off your high horse and trealize that we are trying to help you
everything yiu are doing is very bad for dreads
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08/07/13 10:35:49AM @greta-watkykjy:
I don't understand how i come to this forum to seek other open minded individuals and and am confronted and told Im wrong about my choice of hair product after being asked what i use when i was setting up my profile. I live in the bible belt in KY and really hoping to find some friends, not holierthanthou couched bags that think they know all there is to know about everything that works with me and Im wrong and i suck. Lock Peppa is rosin and it worked perfect to get my locks started. The crochett hook, fu** this, i don't need to explain myself to know-it-all...I hope i can make some friends on here, Im not gonna let some a**holes ruin my day or my journey of discovery.
Welcome. DHHQ may save time in making them look like locks. But it actually extends the time in forming mature locks. If you used any wax, it will completely stop the locking process. In 10 years, they won't be any further along than a few weeks of natural locks.
Crocheting also delays progress. Not quite as much. But iy depends on how often it's used. Just 1 session delays progress by about 6 months. Multiple uses delays by about a year. What's worse is that it completely destroys hair. With ever pass of the hook, hundreds of hairs are broken into smaller and smaller pieces. And unlike popular myth, there is no "safe" way to crochet. Not to mention that crocheting and lock peppa aren't natural. There is no maintenance used in natural locks other than washing and separating.
I get it. Some people want locks right away. That's fine. But insta locks don't last long. If you or clients want locks for life, they will have to accept the fact that locks just take time to form.
Thanks Greta, I love the tats on my hands too!...peace
Welcome
but I think you're over-reacting, no-one is being holier-than-thou. These are facts. Ask the people who've used wax once and have washed it 'out' since then and five years later still have wax in their dreads. Or the people whose dreads have thinned, weakened and/or suddenly snapped off because of the crocheting. These aren't opinions, and these methods/products don't work for anyone. Yes, you think they work for you because they give you quick, tidy-looking dreads. But they don't create actual dreads, either. If they did, once people crocheted, they wouldn't see fuzziness and messy hair as their crocheted dreads loosen up so that they can really dread. If crocheting really dreaded hair, it'd stay more or less as it is. But it doesn't. Many people use these products and methods because, yeah, people want tidy dreads, but those people will not have dreads for long (depending on the method/product, how often it's used, etc.) simply because over time, so much damage is done that either the dreads snap off or rot away, or because there's so much build-up, so much dirt, so many issues, that the person thinks that dreads must cause all of these issues, so they comb them out and that's that.
No-one on this site stands to gain anything by telling you not to use any products. The people you buy your products from contradict themselves trying to explain why you NEED these products or why these products are super-great for dreads. So why trust the businessman more than the people who've experienced and seen first-hand all of this damage? Ask Baba Fats what his story is, he'll tell you the damage those things cause. You can find hundreds of members who've got the same story.So no, no-one is saying any of this for any reason other than to help the longevity of another head full of dreads. No arrogance, no judgment, no malice, no nothing, just help.
Anyway, whether or not you choose to listen is up to you, but I don't see the point in staying on the site and then complaining about people who are on this site to help people who are damaging their hair and may not realise it. If that makes us bad people, then I think we'll all willingly accept that title. Peace.
look im sorry if i came off as harsh we just get alot of locticians that push very harmful methods and just want to advertise and many of our members are in crochet or salon recovery so we expectthe worse when it comes to "professional dreaders" i see your here to participate and be part of the community so lets start over
but i got to also say theres a reason this sites so highly respected and why most people think i am the only one worth going to for dread advice
because we are so honnest and tell the truth about whats good for dreads we care abiut dreads not profiting from dreads many rep]ly on the prity of the info here
everything i told you is true granted i could have said it nicer like i said we expect te worse from locticians when they join
s long as u dont try pushing the harful methods your welcome here but i hope you take this opurtunity to read everyones horror stories and realize how harmfuk these nmethods are and how long it will take to recover from them
we are simply promotoing whats best for dreads whats healthiest
and dreadheadhq is the worse just read the reviews pge here
http://www.dreadlockssite.com/page/dreadheadhq-and-knotty-boy-bad
we pride ourselves on giving the best advice there is and thats the whole reason tht we are the most respected site
i have never done a thing to them they are natural
natural is defined as ocurring in nature without the influence of man
by creating dreads they are not natural dreads i think some salons claim its natural idf its real hair een if permed waxed or crochetted by definitio thats not the case natural dreads just happen by alowing it to happen
now you got to admit thats healthier then crochet wich breaks tons og]f hairs or backcomb that wrecks the citicles or wax that causes them to rot
we saw 1 guy crochet weekly for 6 months then diive in a pool and have 4 dreads float away just from the impact on the water
anpther crochetted to the pint of having to put them through a sewing machine to stitch t6hem back together
even skillteacher on youtube thats responsible for the crochet epidemic pulled 1 of his wifes dreads right off while crocheting it then dared to claim it was cause it wasnt crochetted enough!
just read all the stories here of severe damage caused by it and make up your own mind we are just trying to help
let me fill you in on jonny clean aka dan glutting
he was a drop out failure marketing major whos daddy ran a cosmetics company daddy made the hunting shampoo as well as cat ear hair remover
the wax was danny aka jonny's only contribution wich has killed more dreads then anything else
in fact jonny is aware that he destroys fdreads
we held a debate here he was confronted by his victims
he admitted it did harm
but refused to stop selling it
he lives in a mansion with 10 and 1/2 bathrooms 15 bedrooms and only 2 people
your paying for that while buying into his lies
u can make freinds but u gotta be open minded and realize that yes u=indeed your wrong it is rosin a tree sap and toxic at that
its actualy not a dread product at all neither is the shampoo by them the shampoo is a hunting shampoo highly toxic thats only safe to use a few times a year (since its for hunting) they define residue as scent..airborn scent thats evaporated to be smelled but then claim wax isnt residue even though its impossible to wash out lock peppa on the other hand is a cat ear hair remover its made to spray into cats ears in order to give the hair 'grip" so it can more easily be plucked out
when oput in dreads it makes a sticky grittiness that creates an ilusion of making it easier to knot.till its washed out
hows powder create knots? it cant
but it can make u believe it helps
it literaly does nothing
ofcourse if u crochet or wax it doubles the ilusion
notw crochet is well known to be destructive and ruin dreads many many many members are in crochet recover and it takes a year to recover from
i see how freindly your being
now get off your high horse and trealize that we are trying to help you
everything yiu are doing is very bad for dreads
I don't understand how i come to this forum to seek other open minded individuals and and am confronted and told Im wrong about my choice of hair product after being asked what i use when i was setting up my profile. I live in the bible belt in KY and really hoping to find some friends, not holierthanthou couched bags that think they know all there is to know about everything that works with me and Im wrong and i suck. Lock Peppa is rosin and it worked perfect to get my locks started. The crochett hook, fu** this, i don't need to explain myself to know-it-all...I hope i can make some friends on here, Im not gonna let some a**holes ruin my day or my journey of discovery.
Welcome to the community Greta, enjoy all the great members on this site. .....peace
Welcome. DHHQ may save time in making them look like locks. But it actually extends the time in forming mature locks. If you used any wax, it will completely stop the locking process. In 10 years, they won't be any further along than a few weeks of natural locks.
Crocheting also delays progress. Not quite as much. But iy depends on how often it's used. Just 1 session delays progress by about 6 months. Multiple uses delays by about a year. What's worse is that it completely destroys hair. With ever pass of the hook, hundreds of hairs are broken into smaller and smaller pieces. And unlike popular myth, there is no "safe" way to crochet. Not to mention that crocheting and lock peppa aren't natural. There is no maintenance used in natural locks other than washing and separating.
I get it. Some people want locks right away. That's fine. But insta locks don't last long. If you or clients want locks for life, they will have to accept the fact that locks just take time to form.
crochet hooks if used just once make dreading take 6 months longer
lock peppa is just dirt it only creates an illusion of helping its a scam just like dreadheadhq
it does nothing