veggie vegan omni ital? whats your diet and hows it relate to your dreadiness (if at all)
Dreads and Diets
Except that Silence of the Lambs is a fictional film and Forks over Knives is a documentary. actually what really got me started thinking about this was reading about Jessica Ainscough whose cancer was cured with Gerson Therapy after this discussion. so i read about Gerson Therapy and obviously they're doing something right if they are curing cancer with it. then i had to convince my husband..
My milk comes from the same Amish farm. They are pastured and grass fed. Pasteurized milk is not better in regards to milk from healthy cows, the heat destroys the nutrients, it's pretty much a dead food. Notice how they add calcium and d3 back into pasteurized milk. I would NEVER consume raw milk from a grain fed or CAFO cow. Their gut bacteria is not correct as a result of their improper diet, which makes their milk dangerous to consume raw because of the high risk of contamination. They also started pasteurizing because CAFO farms tend to be filthy and their milking and handling practices aren't exactly clean. I have been consuming raw milk from grass fed cows for several years, including while I was pregnant. I have never had any issue, nor do I know anyone who has had any issue with it. I do know that after I switched to raw milk from pasteurized milk I wasn't bloated or constipated anymore. I realize milk consumption isn't natural. I like the occasional glass of milk though. I wouldn't recommend chugging it down all day.
From what I have read the Okinawans eat fish three times a week. But the average consumption is 3 oz. so very tiny portions. They also do consume grains, mostly noodles and rice. about a cup a day. but 3 oz of fish doesn't come anywhere near the AHA's recommendation for dha intake... so i think i'm going to call bullshit on their recommendations.. 70% of their calories are from sweet potatoes though! that's a lot of sweet potato. The Mediterraneans also consume very little meat, with the exception of a small amount of fish. and we know their diet lowers risk of heart disease, promotes brain health, etc. and then there are the Buddhists, Jains and Hindus who practice ahimsa and eat no meat including fish or eggs, and to my knowledge they are healthy. but that would mean they are also not getting b12... definitely calling BS on the AHA! This would also mean they are not supplementing b12 and somehow still healthy??
Back to omega 3s...
from what I'm seeing online, the only readily sources of omega 3s are in animal foods, especially fish oil or dha extracted from algae... which I'll add is often extracted with hexane. foods like flax seed and hemp seed have ALA which is the precursor to DHA and EPA but your ability to convert it to DHA can be extremely variable and isn't guaranteed. I didn't know that.
According to Vegan Health, ALA does readily convert to EPA. Supposedly the body can covert EPA into DHA, but I guess it's generally not too efficient to convert ALA to EPA and then EPA to DHA. i read that healthy people convert much better than your typical American (as a result of having too many omega 6s.)
also in regards to eggs, pastured eggs are so much better. Mother Earth News did a test to compare pastured eggs with conventional eggs. They used eggs from 14 different farms/factories. The average pastured egg contained 660 mg of omega 3s. WHO recommends 250 mgs of omega 3s per day. if you're eating typical organic grocery store eggs from caged hens or even from free range hens fed a grain diet, they will have significantly less omega 3s. they also have 75mg of DHA per egg. The difference between eggs from chickens treated right and regular eggs is really astounding. Pastured eggs are much harder to crack, the yolk is very firm and bright orange. But yeah at the end of the day that still isn't enough DHA if we're listening to the AHA.
the b12 is where my main concern lies.
Yay! I consider you to be remotely nice :D.
Melanie did totally hit the nail on the head, though. That is exactly how you appeared to me aswell. Random mouthy chick.
The hip part was about you approach the whole matter:
"anyhow, after watching Forks Over Knives, my husband and I have decided on vegetarianism.".
That sentence is just...I don't even have any words for it. It's like a serial killer seriously telling people "After watching Silence of the Lambs, me and my parole officer have decided I should stop murdering hot women".
Natural does not equal good. Popping a pill to get B-12 with an otherwise healthy diet is probably better then eating meat/animal products and getting toxins to go with it. I know nothing about that Amish farm, so I suppose eating eggs is no issue if the chickens are treated well, but eggs are just not that healthy in the first place. Second, you would have to consume quite a bit of eggs to get sufficient B-12 and omega-3 fatty acids. It doesn't really solve anything, you will probably need to supplement both in order to get optimal amounts. Diary industry cows are treated no better then meat industry cows, so why drink milk unless that also comes from the Amish farm. Again, what's with the RAW! milk thing? Natural does not equal good, there's a reason they pasteurize that crap. While were on the matter of natural, it is not natural for a grown woman to consume the milk of another species.
The eskimo/inuit thing is taken way out of proportion. Do you know what their lifespan is? An awesome 50 years. These people do not even live close to even western society retirement regardless of their impeccable health. Do you know where else people rarely get cancer? In just about every third world country!
Do you know what people did live ridiculously long even by western society standard? The Okinawans. A bunch of simple farmers that lived off pretty much 99% sweet potatoes. Virtually no grains, virtually no meat (they did have some monthly festival thing in which they ate meat), virtually no fat or protein. Virtually no modern healthcare. Just. Frigging. Sweet potatoes.