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She probably doesn't have any dreads because they all fell out.

soaring eagle said:

lets see youirs none from salons or pintrest ..yours put up or shut up

Um, that is not how locks are supposed to look. If you want to see what real locks are supposed to look like, then here you go. And this is...a picture of Whoopi Goldberg! I'm sure you know who that is.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/35716189/Whoopi+Goldberg+2138be2007_whoopie_09052007.jpg

Sam said:

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/f32d96673fb6806d24962...

Lots of scalp showing on this one nut again that's how it's supposed to look. You may not like it but that doesn't make it dangerous.

These are regular palm rolled dreads I guess she better watch out as they're tight and she pulled them in two buns, lmao!
http://media-cache-ec5.pinterest.com/upload/250512797992970741_16gd...

Also super pretty, not the style I would choose but to each their own. Regardless the locs themselves are beautiful no matter how she cut them.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/blaqkofi/HPIM0754.jpg

I could go on but again why? As you can see or look up if you'd like its nothing but beauty no baldness on any of these women. So stop telling half truths it just doesn't hold water when you can see how lovely they all turn out!

You're the one being unreasonable. You're not even considering anything we have said with supporting evidence.

Sam said:

Sorry if the pics don't come I'm on my phone not the computer! But let's try links instead:
http://www.nappylocs.com/images/moms_back_2.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wG4JVum419g/SYChsqV3BjI/AAAAAAAAOgw/AWoo7...

Lots of pretty locs on here
http://minglecity.com/m/group?id=2322904%3AGroup%3A3048011

There's interlocks and small locs everywhere if you want to look all healthy don't show just one side of a story. As I can admit its possible one can get baldness from the method why can't you admit it's possible for it to work just fine? It makes you look unreasonable and crazy lol. Stop the madness.

Sam: I just saw the pictures you posted, as it took awhile for them to load. The young girl with the lighter hair already has visible baldness at her hairline, and the last girl you posted, you can see directly through her locks and onto her scalp. None of your scalp should be visible, except at your hair part. Even the pictures you provided help our side in saying interlocking is bad.

But, there's evidence that hair being pulling into a position it doesn't and shouldn't go will cause baldness. It may not happen right away, but it will eventually happen. It may take years. And sure, if you think bald is beautiful, you can join Donald Trump and wear a wig or hairpiece to cover your shiny chrome dome!

Sam said:

Lmao Amanda teach yourself what you just said! Girl you're so crazy lol! Yes one can get alopecia many different ways including having your hair pulled to tight (extensions anyone) however nothing you say will make interlocking cause the condition. Can you pull interlocks to tight sure but only if you do it wrong, as sadly many people do. So don't blame the method blame the person doing it or allowing it to be done to them. They dont tell you to go to someone certified for no reason. It's your hair or lack thereof if you get it done or do it wrong. All it takes is as you said research and the proof will be in the pudding as the saying goes!

My doctor has interlocks goes to place in Baltimore to get them retightened cost her about a grand as she has so many. She's not balding actually goes on all the time about how good its been for her hair. Lol I wouldn't spend a grand on a retightening session but then I'm not a doctor. I do mine myself and they look very similar to hers it takes a lot of work but they're great! My god sister does her palm rolls herself now that she got the hang of it. She used to see a a stylist.

Mine look like this:

Here are some lovely others (not me):

The kids here are especially cute!

Very pretty I see scalp but you know I don't think she's going bald lol!

Something about this is just so lovely, and I can't see any alopecia or baldness here either lol,

Got to love a sexy cornrow style! Still I see scalp she better watch out for that alopecia thats invisible lol!

I could show so many more but why? These women are lovely and far from bald or going that way. If it works for you do it if not don't easy rules to live by! I love all these reflections of black hair, not all the same but beautiful nonetheless!

Very well said, Iona!

Rev. Iona Winton said:

I have taken my time to read all through this discussion and I am amazed that people would want to do this with their hair!! First of all I wonder myself if Sam and jenny are the same person as the term 'Blanket' is used widely in the UK to press a fact that everyone thinks a certain way.eg. Blanket truth, blanket fact, blanket understanding ..... The term 'blanket' means to cover everything and everyone. If they are not the same person them maybe they are both from the UK?

When I first locked up back in the 1980's we knew that patience was a virtue when striving for dreadlocks.You started out by twisting them each day and after washing, and left the rest to nature. Hair Salons never came into the equation, in fact part of the idea of locks was to shun such establishments. They represented un-natural hair that was permed, relaxed and shaped. We locked our hair as a spiritual statement the same as we gave up meat from animals and fish considered un-clean in Leviticus. Some of became vegetarian & vegan. We wore more modest clothes and conducted ourselves in a more 'Kingly & Queenly manner.

I stopped being a Rasta woman when a lot of men took the Bibles teaching a bit too literally and treated women as second class. Some friends like myself kept our locks as a spiritual and political statement, as we worked for the rights of Black youth in the UK. While our locks were short and messy we covered them up when at work and in public. Any negativity from employers could be nipped in the bud by laws protecting religious rights in the work place.

People who think dreads are dirty or can contain lice or bugs are ignorant uneducated fools. Those like Sam, who do not like the look of proper dreads, should take on another hair style. Get plaited extensions if you want to look neat. Messing with locks in this way cheapens their meaning and spiritual history. Look back on the old reggae singers of Bob Marley's generation and you will not see any of them with false dreads. Wear your false dreads to Jamaica and no one will take you seriously, male of female.

Dreads are not meant as a fashion statement. Many religions where dreads are worn believe they are akin to antenae to pick up knowledge and wisdom from spirit. They are an outwardshow of dedication to your path, whether it be Rasta, Pagan or other.

All SE and others on this site can do is show members the truth and explain the consequesnces of using chemicals, un-naural sprays, lotions, and salon styles on your hair. If someone ignores the factual info, this group is always here to help damage limitation.

Blessings x

I agree. There are many respectable people who have jobs with dread locks. One guy I am aquainted with has locks down to his waist, and he works at an upscale coffee shop. He knows my drink order before I even get a chance to get to the counter! The fact that he's in the food and service industry says more about the company he works for.

soaring eagle said:

oh and my last office job i managed 200 + web designers we designed sites for multi million multop[i national orgs like red cross but also every church bank and..polotician in the region and given day i might havge meetings with congreesmen clergy ceos of finance orgs the mayor the governor foreign relations profest=ionals (the japan insy=titute especu=ialy had me in theu[ir office 3 times a week )

1st day of interview i wore a tam

day 1 of work i show i[up u[in the tam 3 hours later off it came my natural l9cks spill to the floor just as the president of the company walks by..stops dead says..wow and went on about his day

from that day on when the president had meetings hed drop by my office to indtroduce me toi his clients

the week b4 i left they were making promo materials mugs calanders posters etc hired a photographer and..guess who was featured front center most pri=ominant possition? the president? no...me

they used me and my dreads as the corporate image they used to promote the company

see ? thats a fact you cant argue with

salons lie to you to scare u into harming your head and paying to have it done

they tell you u wont get a job unless your going bald..

catagoricly untre]ue

ples

every single case whefre dread descrin]=minati9n in the workplace went to court...even in jail not jobs..guess who won..the dready..every time

its in the constitution..read it sometime

Sam was just being a hard headed troll. When I called them out on being a troll and you guys provided evidence, they stopped. You guys are great.

soaring eagle said:

gravity doesnt exist only your beliefe in gravity holds you to the ground

up and down are a matter of opinion its my opinion the ground is uo and the sky down therefore i walk on the clouds not the grass

haha

but your so right we bombard her with concrete medical facts and she responds with "we like it like that" and nothing more

so sam..go on..like it like that all you want..somewhere else..on your salons site where unhealthy is the norm

why are you here?

we cant see your scalp but just knowing your here we are cringing in pain just envissioning its deporable condition

Amanda said:

Sam: Sorry, I am not reading your response as you provided a wall of text. Not providing paragraphs is too straining on the eyes. I read the very first part, though, and as I can see, you aren't actually reading everything. You can get a government job with dreadlocks. You assume freeform dreads are all super messy. Most of them just have slight frizz once mature. Mine are messy because they aren't mature yet.

Can you provide proof that someone cannot get a government job? Please provide a link and evidence of this. Considering we did that kindness for you; we provided links and medical proof, yet you refuse to provide any proof to back up what you are saying. You keep calling it our opinions. I don't think you understand the definition of opinion. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it opinion. I could say I don't believe in gravity, but that doesn't mean that suddenly the evidence and proof behind gravity's existence is just an opinion. LOL

That's good for her. I wish more people understood that forcing roots to be too tight is terrible for any hair.

soaring eagle said:

in the hospoitol i met a nurse she used to work in a salon but quit over how they did things this is an exact qui[ote from her "wow i love your dreads ..know why cause they are real i used to work in a salon they made us do dreads in such horifying ways and they never came out right..so i quit"

Ruth Creekus said:

Most "locticians" I have seen don't have dreaded hair anyway. Plus, they charge you an arm and a leg, which is in itself a big red flag. I've looked up prices just out of my own curiosity, I have looked up the prices for these "sessions". If you have long hair, they can charge you almost 2 grand just to ruin your hair. They're no better than any other scammer out there. Also, I will add that there are reputable beauticians. About a month ago, one of them actually complimented my dreads. She even touched the ends and the roots. She said she's proud of me because I had no interlocking, and I had no burned ends, which is also common in shoddy salons.

soaring eagle said:

what can we do to get through to you your dence as a doorknob

i mean the dovctors advize "if your stylist is causing the issi=ue seek another stylist" and "most stylists dont know a thing aboi[ut [proper treatment"

so you tell us to ask a loctician? over a doctor?

a locticians a made up word..lock-techinian made only to make u beliec-v e that locks are complicated requiring a desree

most locticians dont even know dreads happen on their own without help

thats how well trained that are

they are taught a technique and told to use it..end of training

they then make 1000 ppl bald

end of experience

now so your way of 'winning a debate'" is avoid all facts and put shame on those trying to help you?

go bald if you want

but this is a healthy dread community take your hair turture elsewhere

Sam said:

Lmbo ok I just have to laugh at how crazy you all have gotten! I mean really resorting to name calling? Lol how very mature. If you don't agree with me that's fine, in your opinion there's only one right way to loc your hair that's fine too, it's not factual but it's ok to believe that. You want to insist no one has healthy locs if they're not freeform also your opinion but fine too. I don't believe in name calling when people say things I don't like or throwing tantrums when I don't get my way lol. I don't know I just graduated elementary school and I guess grew out of it but to each their own.

You don't have to agree with me about Gov jobs (I speak of ones in the US as that's where I am) but please do try and get one with your hair looking the way it does and let me know how it works out for you. In many agencies men aren't even allowed to have facial hair unless they can prove a religious reason and even then it must be strictly maintained and manicured. Sorry but the I'm a dirty derelict just doesn't wash everywhere, tsk don't know why? Lol I find the fact that you all and especially the owner of the site can't have a normal debate about the difference in locking methods both sad and upsetting as it makes me wonder about how you handle other life situations certainly not well if you behave like this. I feel bad for any children you might have if you teach them to behave like this they're not gonna make it far. It's kind of sad really but at least it helps others to think they don't know what they're talking about as they have to resort to anger and name calling to get a point across.
You know I was explaining to my youth group the proper way to have a debate and the wrong way you all will be a perfect example to show exactly what not to do and how not to be taken seriously. And since several have locs it will be perfect! I know little Bre especially will enjoy this. She's had palm rolled locs since she was 5 now she just turned 14 and they're beautiful no breakage and yeah she's not balding in anyway has to get her hair trimmed to keep it the length she wants. Not to mention her mothers locs, her aunts locs, her cousins locs it's a family of locs! All palm rolled and quite lovely some dyed some natural but locs one and the same. Except Grandma who has a very fine texture of hair and choose to never have locs but her hair is thinning on the top, hmmm maybe somehow the bad loc monster is sneaking over to her hair and causing her to go bald, we'd better all watch out any of us can be its next victim, lmao!
Ok, ok in all seriousness stop being crazy if you don't want to interlock don't but quit trying to sell it as something bad or dangerous, you don't see me or anyone that I could see doing that. We could but that wouldn't be anymore true then what you're saying. It's fine to have opinions even differing ones but lets not try and sell them as facts. You don't like the style, it may not have worked for some of you but that's not a reflection on the style just means it wasn't a fit for you. I used to get relaxers til my hair was damaged by them, I stopped but my cousin won't take the hint she keeps on straightening but wonders why her hair keeps breaking the sad truth is the relaxer is not bad (I think it is but that's my opinion, not fact) my sister has one and her hair is lovely always has been probably always will be. We got the same relaxers but my hair was damaged hers came out picture perfect, it wasn't the style meant for me so I moved on. I didn't blame the relaxers I blamed myself for continuing to put it in my hair when it was causing damage. If something doesn't work for you stop doing it don't blame the something. That's not realistic and makes you look crazy.

Don't feed the trolls. Lol

Amanda said:

Sam: Sorry, I am not reading your response as you provided a wall of text. Not providing paragraphs is too straining on the eyes. I read the very first part, though, and as I can see, you aren't actually reading everything. You can get a government job with dreadlocks. You assume freeform dreads are all super messy. Most of them just have slight frizz once mature. Mine are messy because they aren't mature yet.

Can you provide proof that someone cannot get a government job? Please provide a link and evidence of this. Considering we did that kindness for you; we provided links and medical proof, yet you refuse to provide any proof to back up what you are saying. You keep calling it our opinions. I don't think you understand the definition of opinion. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it opinion. I could say I don't believe in gravity, but that doesn't mean that suddenly the evidence and proof behind gravity's existence is just an opinion. LOL