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The Demon Drink

the Barrellady
@the-barrellady
4 years ago
1,302 posts

Turn your thoughts around and volunteer to be the designated driver when out with friends. It may be easier not to have the first drink if you know that you have the responsibility of your friends.

Being aware is a huge step, it makes you take notice more. Peace


updated by @the-barrellady: 07/23/15 05:20:40AM
Kelly3
@kelly3
4 years ago
337 posts

Have a look at this and see how you fit in within the criteria.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44358/

This is the alcohol use disorder identification test (AUDIT). It contains a questionnaire and information on how to calculate results.http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/2001/who_msd_msb_01.6a.pdf

If you think about it daily, I say quit. I quit drinking before and it is not easy when all your friends do it. Going out is the hardest part and friends often try to convince you to drink. So, I would steer clear of that kind of environment for a couple of months. Start running or yoga. Any kind of exercise that you can join a club and socialise with people will help to keep you focused.

Maybe you will be reluctant to take advise from me, since I posted this discussion, but that is what worked for me before. I only quit last time because I wanted to see how difficult it was to break yourself of certain behaviours. You will feel great once you do.

BeauZay said:

I'm struggling with this now... and seriously want to quit. I think about it daily.... Really sucks.

CzCacher
@czcacher
4 years ago
1 posts
Whether or not you're an alcoholic is not up to me to diagnose but I think it's clear you have some sort of problem with alcohol be it psychological/biological/social. I'd say come up with some limits and see if you can stick with them (ie. only drink three beers two times a week, whatever). If you can, stay there or increase the limits. If you can't stop you have a problem. We all have our addictions, some are fine (ie. I eat ice cream once a week) and most often we can keep them within boundaries. It's when we can't control them that we need to worry.
Kelly3
@kelly3
4 years ago
337 posts

I have set my limit. It is one beer per hour for 4 hours only, once a week. I started last week and will be sticking with it. Special occasions I may break it (weddings, birthdays etc) Thanks for the input!

CzCacher said:

Whether or not you're an alcoholic is not up to me to diagnose but I think it's clear you have some sort of problem with alcohol be it psychological/biological/social. I'd say come up with some limits and see if you can stick with them (ie. only drink three beers two times a week, whatever). If you can, stay there or increase the limits. If you can't stop you have a problem. We all have our addictions, some are fine (ie. I eat ice cream once a week) and most often we can keep them within boundaries. It's when we can't control them that we need to worry.
ginger.rose
@gingerrose
4 years ago
45 posts
If you justify your drinks, you will want to keep a careful eye on the habit over time - maybe even track it with a journal to get a clear picture of any adjustments you end up making to the plan. Just a suggestion, since you appear to have a scientific leaning.I was a binge drinker, and didn't have success with the limitation program - it broke down after a while and I was back to over-consuming and blanking out. Turns out I even had an IgG (low level) allergy to components of my drinks of choice, which may have actually made me drink more to compensate for feeling out of sorts.I quit by cleaning up my diet and meditating to clear my head. I choose not to attend drinking events, unless I only plan to stay for a short while. I ask my true friends to meet me elsewhere, where they can have a drink if they want, but it's not a bar atmosphere. I miss my old drinking buddies, but most were not deep or healthy relationships. The real friends followed me out of the bar, so to speak.This thread may help a lot of people - thanks for bringing it up.
Kelly3
@kelly3
4 years ago
337 posts

I think that is a great idea and I'm going to do it. i'll write it into acalendarwhenever I drink and the amount I drink, too.

ginger said:

If you justify your drinks, you will want to keep a careful eye on the habit over time - maybe even track it with a journal to get a clear picture of any adjustments you end up making to the plan. Just a suggestion, since you appear to have a scientific leaning.

I was a binge drinker, and didn't have success with the limitation program - it broke down after a while and I was back to over-consuming and blanking out. Turns out I even had an IgG (low level) allergy to components of my drinks of choice, which may have actually made me drink more to compensate for feeling out of sorts.

I quit by cleaning up my diet and meditating to clear my head. I choose not to attend drinking events, unless I only plan to stay for a short while. I ask my true friends to meet me elsewhere, where they can have a drink if they want, but it's not a bar atmosphere. I miss my old drinking buddies, but most were not deep or healthy relationships. The real friends followed me out of the bar, so to speak.

This thread may help a lot of people - thanks for bringing it up.
Anna3
@anna3
4 years ago
71 posts

Maybe you could try getting a good friend to hold you accountable. Make your limit 1-2 drinks and make sure they know that. If you try and drink anything more than that have them take it away, no matter what. But it mostly is up to you to have enough self control to stop drinking so much. You can do it if you try, don't blame it on impulses or the way you were raised because that's only an excuse. A human being is capable of SO much, including self control. You just need to take some time for yourself and really think about what you want, whether that's to stop drinking all together or to just slow down. If you don't think you're an alcoholic than it should be simple for you to control yourself.

I don't want to sound like a broken record but it really truely comes down to self control and I believe you have that. Don't let the "fun times" get the best of you. Have you ever been around a group of hammered people while sober? It will quickly change your mind. Try being the DD for a night. It's not so fun babysitting, and you'll see how silly you really act while drunk.

Supa Dread
@supa-dread
4 years ago
101 posts
We all make excuses for our behaviors, but if its excessive, id say its problem. U may think ur not an alcoholic, but ur addicted to alcohol. Dont wanna tell u what to do, but im assuming since u made it public, u wanted unbiased views from strangers. Saying ur not an alcoholic sounds like denial, and the mere fact that you make provisions to have it once a week, or one drink every 4 hours, means u need it in ur life enough that you make these provisions. If u werent addicted or an alcoholic you wounldnt keep count of when u drank last. Ill drink here n there, but never to get drunk or be social. I drink a glass of sangria at a restaurant cuz i like the taste, and because i am a husband and father n im usually driving thats all ill have with my meal. I can sympathize with you because i also have an addictive personality, i either hate something or i love it, theres really no in between with me. This is why ive never smoked weed, cuz i know i could become addicted. I understand ur feeling of not wanting to join AA, but if u cant do it on ur own, then maybe being around others that are going through the same and have successfully quit wouls help. Maybe you couls start ur own ssupport group? Maybe find some folks n meet weekly, more as a group of support friends as opposed to being under the AA umbrella. Dont mean to preach to you bro, just my humble opinion. Bless.
Mons
@mons
4 years ago
523 posts
I would like to throw in my thoughts about recovery groups. In my opinion, they can be extremely helpful. You don't have to turn your will over to someone elses idea of god. It's a higher power as YOU understand it. It could be a rock, a piece of clothing, a concept, the rooms meetings are held in, the meeting itself, or a particular message. I too struggled with what a higher power could be, and I got the answer (for now) from an Al-Anon book. I don't have a higher power but I do have a higher consciousness. Plus, step work, if you feel you need to do it (most in recovery do) is done at your own pace. When you feel comfortable doing it. If you struggle with a step (Step 2 in this case) talk to your sponsor, someone who has shared similar experiences, even yourself. I know a lot of althoests, Buddhists, pagans, wiccans, Native Americans, etc in recovery. A Christian view of god is not required.Now that I've gone on and on... In my opinion, if you're having to consciously try to limit yourself, set boundaries, there's a problem. You mentioned beginning to want to drink durning the day, while at work, just because, alone. That indicates a problem. It's very easy to fill in any answer on an online survey to get the end result that makes you happy. I'm not saying you did that, I'm just sayin....
Kelly3
@kelly3
4 years ago
337 posts

Mons, I am prone to binge drinking. this much is true. It is a pattern of use that I settled into from a young age. But if you can control what you are drinking, then is is notdependence or alcoholism. I feel I can control myself. If I start going overboard, thenIwouldconsiderentering a program. But I would most likely just stop by myself, the same way I did with all the other drugs in my past. I did say that I felt the urge to drink during the day, and it is true, but i know not to succumb to this. I was dependant on weed for a number of years and quit, so I know where it would lead.

The DSM is what medical professionals use to assess various psychological conditions. This is what I was using. The other, the AUDIT, was devised by the WHO. It not like a facebook quiz or something. I'm a psychologist.

It must seem stupid of me to have posted this discussion and then go against what most people are saying, but I honestly know myself. I know that when I get drunk I will keep drinking. that is what happens. So now I'm setting my limit and sticking to it. If I go over, I know that I have to stop completely. This is somewhat of a trial period.

 
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