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"natural", defined.

Bird
@bird
14 years ago
74 posts
Perhaps it's just me, but I think we should distinguish a bit more between "natural" dreadlocks and "patience method"...To me, Twist and Rip dreads are 100% natural. I mean, all you use is your own (or possible someone else's) hands to start them off. Backcombing I can understand not being totally natural because you use a comb or brush, and obviously putting stuff like wax in there is no good...but i think that the way that 'natural' is normally used on this site can be a bit misleading.When people say 'natural' on this site it seems to mean that they let nature take it's course without interfering, but most of those people at least separate their dreads (using hands, just like TnR).Just wanted some clarification or input from others, because i know that if i was totally new to the dreading scene, it would cause some confusion for me. :)
updated by @bird: 02/14/15 11:11:11AM
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
14 years ago
29,640 posts
well natural coveres a range freeform organic neglect (patience) where they are alowed to form naturaly as in they are not "formed" by efforttwist and rips the next best thing to natural but its still a "makimg" dreads method instead of "allowinmg dreads" to just happennow without that clarification u get like that album i commented on that was crochetted dreads labled 100% natural just because they werent waxy\twist and rip is close to natural especialy if allowed to naturalize, but still they were formed through effort so arent technicaly natural


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@soaring-eagle
14 years ago
29,640 posts
keep in mind this is my understanding and i know theres a difference between the "flavors" of natural freeform. organic , neglect but couldnt accurately rtell u which is which,..lol 1 is no seperating no interferance (freeform i think?) organics simular with seperation? i think maybe someone can clarift..


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GreyGargoyle
@greygargoyle
14 years ago
569 posts
Natural is when you do nothing but clean and separate. Animals naturally clean and take care of themselves. Well cleaning is obviously something we want to do with our dreads and separating is a lot like how a cat keeps it's fur laying down. Not against the grain. Neglect is when you do absolutely nothing. The neglect method as described by a lot of people means just neglecting your hair but still keeping it clean but that isn't really the true definition of neglect. I personally don't consider T&R to be completely natural because it involves making your own sections and choosing the size and shape of your baby dreads. That is not natural.
Matted Dew
@matted-dew
14 years ago
213 posts
you can get natural beeswax.....
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
14 years ago
29,640 posts
and? natural beeswax is naturally in beehivesbees dont naturally live in your hair so its not natural to have wax in dreads Matted Dew said:
you can get natural beeswax.....



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Matted Dew
@matted-dew
14 years ago
213 posts
people eat it so... it could acccidently-naturally get in their hair and stay there....naturallyhahahhaa im jus messinitssss allll just hairrrrrrr and its alllll B E A U TIFULNams
GreyGargoyle
@greygargoyle
14 years ago
569 posts
There is no real boundaries. I've seen people on the internet call their dreads "natural" when they backcombed and crotcheted and all that crap. Natural is natural. Free form is natural with no separation but some do separate theirs and they still call it free form...But anyways, I saw this lady with dreads on youtube and she was talking to a natural dreadhead. She said, "I like natural dreads but they get too thin that they break off. That is why I do twists." and WOW, her dreads were so tiny/thin and they looked ready to just fall off any second...I don't who she was trying to convince...maybe herself? haha. Seriously, her dreads were so thin and brittle looking it looked as if they'd fall off if you looked at them wrong. It was so obvious that she was twisting wayyy too much. lol, sorry about this rant. I just remembered that for some reason. soaringeagle said:
keep in mind this is my understanding and i know theres a difference between the "flavors" of natural freeform. organic , neglect but couldnt accurately rtell u which is which,..lol 1 is no seperating no interferance (freeform i think?) organics simular with seperation? i think maybe someone can clarift..
Matted Dew
@matted-dew
14 years ago
213 posts
lolllllllonce again words just become a barrier to truthi guess its jus better to be more direct, specific, and descripive on topics such as this;the title "neglect" is a far better title at gettin the point across that you didnt use any products at all"natural" could be a big umbrella for anythingI DUNOOOOO my hair natually sectioned itself off into what would later be locks, but i would never say that i have comletelynatural dreads but who really ccares ne ways?sooSOrrrry for that rant hahahahhahahhahaNams GreyGargoyle said:
There is no real boundaries. I've seen people on the internet call their dreads "natural" when they backcombed and crotcheted and all that crap. Natural is natural. Free form is natural with no separation but some do separate theirs and they still call it free form...

But anyways, I saw this lady with dreads on youtube and she was talking to a natural dreadhead. She said, "I like natural dreads but they get too thin that they break off. That is why I do twists." and WOW, her dreads were so tiny/thin and they looked ready to just fall off any second...I don't who she was trying to convince...maybe herself? haha. Seriously, her dreads were so thin and brittle looking it looked as if they'd fall off if you looked at them wrong. It was so obvious that she was twisting wayyy too much. lol, sorry about this rant. I just remembered that for some reason.

soaringeagle said:
keep in mind this is my understanding and i know theres a difference between the "flavors" of natural freeform. organic , neglect but couldnt accurately rtell u which is which,..lol 1 is no seperating no interferance (freeform i think?) organics simular with seperation? i think maybe someone can clarift..
☮ soaring eagle ॐ
@soaring-eagle
14 years ago
29,640 posts
i remember a loctition on myspace advertising natural dreads so i asked her how a locyition can do natural dreads and she said "natural dreads are just dreads made from hair, not synthetic" so i asked how she makes these "natural dreads" she said i braid them with yarn and sythetic hair added to your own hnatural hair then seal it with hair glue they sew the roots and finaly felt wool onto the outside of the dreadsand these are being advertised as natural dreadsthis is precisely why i think the meanning must be relatively precise ..meaning little to no effort put into forming them..allowing time to do all the work.in a way wool rubbing would be naturalish but i dont think most who start by wool rubbing consider them truly natural(unless the rubbing was the result of scratchin an itch thru a wool hat


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