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my friend: jobs and dreads

2012-06-19
By: ashley walker
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My friend Kyle wants dreads. He actually wanted them before i did but he never got them because of work and frankly i think he's to lazy to do them himself. Anyways, so he asked me to dread his hair in the near future with this other chick he knows who had dreads (he has a lot of hair). I'm just concerned and he's concerned as well, because it's already difficult for him to get a job with this long hair that if he get's dread locks it might be harder for him to get a job. And he needs a job especially when he's supporting himself, he also doesn't live in an area where there are many jobs available so it's sort of a lose/lose for him except he really wants them and he has perfect hair for it. He has great work ethic considering he's been working since he was 15, so it shouldn't matter that he has dreads right? I wish it didn't matter, and i feel like jobs should be more lenient now that there is an increase of people getting tattoos and all sorts of body modifications, what's "professional looking" even mean? I figure you just shouldn't smell stinky or have your private parts all out and about and that should be enough along with a good work ethic.

Baba Fats
06/21/12 07:51:42AM @baba-fats:

Most states don't have to tell you why they fired you. They just have to say that you did not fit the position. And most jobs have at least a 1 month probation period where they can fire for anything they want. Even making 1 mistake that is small but big enough can get you fired. After that 1 month period, they usually feel like they spent enough time training you that they don't mind letting things go. Don't work 1 day and then grow locks. You'd have to wait about a month and then tell them that you are going to grow them. Don't ask if you can. That opens them to say "no". But if you say that you "will", Then the only thing they can say is "will they be neat?" To this, you can then explain your spiritual beliefs


Alexander Šuma
06/20/12 11:10:34PM @alexander-uma:

The easiest way to go with this is to get the job first,and start work the next day with dreads or half a head of dreads anyway.They can turn you away for having the dreads and get away with it.But they don't fire you for getting them after you get the job in my experience.Have done it twice now.Maybe your friend should wait it out until he works one shift...Loads easier than explaining his beliefs


Baba Fats
06/20/12 10:39:26PM @baba-fats:

That's the best idea. if he doesn't get it you call just in case they'd recognize the voice and ask if the jobs is still open. If so, then you can be fairly sure that it is his locks. But most employers do give you the benefit of the doubt. If you can do the work, then you most likely will get the job


☮ soaring eagle ॐ
06/20/12 10:11:06PM @soaring-eagle:

he can call ask anonomously if its filled if its not he can sue

but it wont happen that waty'

in fact he will probly get the job

most ppl arent as biassed as the 1% who are asshiles most ppl would give him a fair chance


ashley walker
06/20/12 10:04:08PM @ashley-walker:
I mean what If they don't give him time to explain and just look at him

ashley walker
06/20/12 10:02:30PM @ashley-walker:
But what if they don't give him time to explain. Because they could just look at him and say that the position he applied for is already filled. I'm sure it's happened to him before

Baba Fats
06/20/12 12:02:13PM @baba-fats:

Well, if you have nice neatmanicuredlocks, it's almostimpossible. But if they are messy and nappy, you can explain that part of your spirituality is to not touch your hair. That is why it is not "neat". The US census has a box to check for "spiritualist". You don't really have to explain it if you don't want to. Many employers don't know the details about most religions except for the name of their god(s), and the name of a few holidays. So they don't have to know the details about yours. If you want to, you can try to explain it, but you are not legally bound to, and they are not legally bound to ask


ashley walker
06/20/12 11:12:56AM @ashley-walker:
Thats pretty cool how we could have dreads for a spiritual reason and have the right be protected except how would you prove it? I'd have a hard time explaining my spirituality and how it correlates to my dreadlock especially to someone who might not hire me if he thinks I'm full of shit.

Baba Fats
06/19/12 11:35:52PM @baba-fats:

It should be, but some employers think they can push you around because so many people let themselves be. If he wants locks for any spiritual reason, he has the right to under the first amendment (if you're in America, I didn't check yet). Unfortunately this is the only way you can stand beside that amendment. If he just wants them for a hair style, then employers don't have to make anyconcessions. In Pa, employers can fire you for whatever reason they want and it's up to you to prove that it was a wrongful termination. I'm sure other states have similar laws. As far as the initial hiring, I wish it was so simple as for your experience to speak for itself and it have nothing to do with yourappearance, but some older people are still biased.


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