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I did twist and rip (not real tight) on thick coarse curly hair. I had the ends so tight and thin I just didn't feel right about them. I thought I had them constricted somehow. It's weird because I was just compelled to loosen the ends so they can vine around on their own. If you look at my other pic's you will see what I mean. I chose twist and rip over all the way natural because I really didn't want real super thick dreadlocks. I feel much better about them after pulling them apart about half way up so they can do their thing from here. Like my husband said, I kind-of gave them a path and they'll do the rest from here : )