Question regarding Twist and Rip.

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Permalink Reply by Iain on March 10, 2010 at 9:22pm

if anything, it's hard to T&R (least it was for me) closer to the roots, if you only have 1-2inches to it, that's pretty nicely done,
give the roots time, they will probably take a few months but they lock up well eventually.

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Permalink Reply by Knottysleeves on March 11, 2010 at 12:39am

I agree with Iain -- an inch or two from the roots is actually pretty good! Nice work!

The roots will definitely knot up on their own in time. My nape dreads are all twist & rip (I had a shaved undercut for years and had to wait for it to grow in) and I actually had a much harder time getting the ends to lock than the roots... but that's probably because the hair was so short when I started them.

It's been a little over a year now for the nape dreads and they've matured differently than my other ones (started by backcombing)... a lot more twisty and textured. It's pretty cool. Good luck, I'm sure yours will turn out awesome!

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Permalink Reply by j.boy on March 11, 2010 at 1:13am

thats what worried me..i tried everything to get the to knot up closer to the roots .....doesnt happen....ive noticed that the thinner ones are dreading alot faster than the thicker ones...


good luck...

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Emmel on March 11, 2010 at 1:35am

I used twist and rip for all my dreads. I managed to get the knots pretty close to the scalp (but was prolly a little too rough), but I don't think it really matters. After the first month, almost all my T&R had fallen out, except the last inch of knotting by the scalp where natural tangling had started. That natural tangling is what you're going for, and tight knots at the scalp don't help. For me, T&R was a way to skip the period between straight hair and clumps, and to give me some control over section sizes. It wasn't to create dreads, but to start them.

Just enjoy letting it happen.

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Permalink Reply by ☮Izzy-licious☮ on March 11, 2010 at 3:43am

you want room at the scalp for movement and comfort too close and they will pull and get uncomfortable. not tomention you will see your scalp and it just won't look good...

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Permalink Reply by Sister Rags on March 13, 2010 at 3:58am

Definitely need room at the scalp for movement. I had one dread that somehow got twisted too tightly against my scalp and it was truly painful. My scalp, in that small spot, was so sore that I just cut that dread off and regrew it. Now I'm more careful - if one starts getting too tight at the root, I loosen it. So it sounds like you're doing fine.

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Permalink Reply by ☮soaringeagleॐ on March 13, 2010 at 4:09am

if u only got knots in the very tip it would dread just fine to the roots so even 3 feet of looseness at the roots would be fine in the end

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Permalink Reply by ☮soaringeagleॐ on March 22, 2010 at 2:40pm

no its not breaking up hairs not if dont right yoir just creattuing knots its very gentle typicakly

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Permalink Reply by Spider Feet on March 22, 2010 at 2:45pm

New meaning for "rule of thumb" lol. You want at least enough space that you can stick your finger through the root. Like someone said, it'll save you from the "bald patch" look, it wont feel constricted and it'll be easier to wash your scalp.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Emmel on March 22, 2010 at 5:09pm

Vanny, it sounds like you're talking about ripping/popping, which is essentially hair damage. I've been wondering about this too, but I think this is the wrong discussion.

rastavanny said:

isn't the t&r method still damaging? its breaking up the hair closer to the roots, still sounds like its damaging the hair

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Permalink Reply by ☮soaringeagleॐ on March 22, 2010 at 5:22pm

ripping/popping breaks hairs that connect dreads together this is true, its a clean break (no split ends) and does zero damage to strucrtural hairsa (hairs inside the dreads are not effected, only hairs outside the dread connecting 2 dreads) yiu cannot avoid it unlrsss you allow dreads to combine at will

external damage is very different from crochet rubbing rolling damage that affects interior structural hairs that once broken add to weakness
felting and crochet do the most internal damage
interlocking doesnt really do much damage but causes weak points by the twisting of the roots tightly and forcing the dread through a gap..the weak point isnt cause d by damaged broken hairs but by the gap with the dread forced through

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Permalink Reply by ☮soaringeagleॐ on March 23, 2010 at 2:18am

yes..you havebut you ignored it i told u about a few thered been dozens who found our site bt searchubng for "interlocking causes dreads to break) why do u think theyre searchung fir that if theyre dreads didnt break from interlocking?
youve been told by others rthat its a very bad idea
and looks neat? it looks rediculouse roots way too tight baldness around each dread that sure dont loot cool
and is that really whats so important to look cool for awhile and risk loosing your entire dread?

how many times do u need to be told interlocking is a bad idea before you get it?
do u really think the person u pay to interlock u wull say yes its bad?

try thins replace interlocking with the original term root flipping and search for root flipping causes dreads to break amd just see for yourself
they only came up with the name interlocking cause root flipping became so well known to be the worse thing u can do

just like johny calling a felting needle a "dread docta" so he can sell it under a new name since felting is so well known to be destructive

ofcouse you will never learn till u have a handfull of broken dreads

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