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Advice about sectioning please!

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I don't think that is necessarily true. I believe that hair density, texture and thickness are important factors. It may not solely depend on those factors, but i do think they play a significant role in dreadsize.

For example, the hair around my edges is much thinner than the hair on my crown. The sections on my crown are relatively small compared the ones on my edges. But the '(immature)dreads' are thicker on my crown (small section) and the ones on my edges are very thin.

I've also seen a lot of people with locks (youtube, pictures, real life) and they hugely differ in size based on the amount of dreads.

soaringeagle said:

it actuakly does not depend on how much hair or how thick or thin almost everyone has pretty close to the same surface area

so if you are going to use unatural sexctioning never ever let the root sections be larger then 1 inch

anything from pencil size to 1 inch is fine

numbver 20 is huge dreads

30-40 big

40-60 medium

60-80 thin

80-100 real thin

100-200 very very thin

200-400 micro

aVERAGE PPL HAVE IS IN THE 40-60 RANGE I GUESS

I WOULDNT BOTHER WITH THE STAGARED BLOCKS A BLOCKS A BLOCK THEY WILL ALL END UP TOO UNIFORM

THEY LOOK BETTER A BLEND OF SIZES WITHIN A RANGE

IF U WANT THIN DREADS A BLEND OF PENCIL TO THUMB SIZES

IF U WANT THICK THUMB TO 1 INCH

IF U WANT MORE NATURAL OR NATURAL AS CAN BE COMPLETELY RANDOM FROM AN INCH TO REAL THIN

ID GO WOTH THE MORE RANDOM LOOK

SEE SHE RECOMENDS STAGERING SO IT DONT LOOK SO BLOCKY

WELL STAGARED BLOCKS ARE SILL BLOCKS JUST LIL MIORE BLENDED LESS GOOFY LOOKING

BUT THE MORE RANDOM BOTH THE SIZE AND PLACFEMENT THE MORE BLENDEDTHEY LOOK

SO RANDOM SHAOPES SIZES THE ONLY THING TO WATCH OUT FOR IS THAT THE HAIRS AT THE ROOTS ARENT CRISS CROSSING INTO OTHER SECTIONS

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They look good!

If this is the look that your going for (manicured, opposed to neglect) and it is exactly what you wanted, then you're not ripped off.

Hahah I also shake them to check if i they're not smelling!

I'm no expert on dreads but wash it just as frequent as you would normally.

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If i didn't do them in a salon, would you still think that it's an odd place for a fat dread I thought this site's main focus is bringing awareness about natural dreadlocks and stuff, but now all the sudden there's a certain dread fashion standard...

I'm not lucky that they didn't do an 'extremely bad' job, because i made a concious decision. I did not walk in the salon, totally unawair, naive and hoping that they'll do a 'not so extremely bad job'. I'm just a happy customer, not a lucky one. I paid over a 100.. But i was in the chair for 7 hours, so it would actually be slavery if i paid him 50. There is something like a minimum wage.

I've been fingertwisting my hair since i was a child (it was my thumb sucking alternative) but after a day and a shower it would 'blend in' with the rest. So my hair is not suited for fingertwisting. Also i've tried 2strand twists a while a go, but they keep unraveling and they stick up and i looked ridiculous (Coolio). It would be so time consuming to retwist the fingertwists every other day. And do not tell me oh just wait a weeek, because after a day the twists are gone.

The man strongly adviced against me having twists (I tested him, to see if he would rip me off or something, because i know it's not gonna work. guess he passed the test). So that is way he backcombed it. I experienced no discomfort, no itchy scalp. The only discomfort i got was from the BS.

soaringeagle said:

did u want fat dreads some of the sections seem pretty big not like huge buig but oike the placement in front of yoir ear seems an odd plasce for a really fat dreads

with your hair texture why would anyone backcomb (or go any way but natural for that matter) but u coulda had the same results just twisting the hair into sections (not doing twists like salons do just finger twist a section togethber) and waiting a weeek

no salon gives im gonna rip you off vibe they just do terible jobs and use extremely bad methods whikle charging u an incredibkle ammount all the while being freindly and smily so u dont think its a rippodfdd

now u lucked out and tbsey didnt do an extremely bad job (altho backcombing yoir jair type is extra damaging and not recomended)

so the rippoff totakly depends on what u were charged was it over 50? over 100? over 400?

if 50-60 or about that its ok deal over 100 kinda shady..over 200-400 total rippoff

weve seen it over 700 and the weirdest thing is the more they charge the worse the job generaly

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Thanks!

I'll try the olive oil, it makes sense to put in on before washing, like an oily coating.
Janine said:

Yay for salons that don't rip you off and have a clue! :] They look great!

Your baby locks are kinda flat right now because they're not compact. Meaning when you lay down to sleep, they will flatten some from you laying on them. They still have tightening and budding to do. For me, I palmroll them with some melted shea butter and other oils after I wash. It kinda gets it in a more round shape. But its all about what you wanna do.

I've never tried a BS wash but as Knottysleeves said, I've seen some people saying they can't do it too often because it dries out their scalp. I wash with black soap for now, but I'ma switch back to this moisturizing shampoo that I have when they start to lock some more so my hair isn't so dry. Try getting some kind of oil and rubbing it on your scalp with your fingers. Olive oil is good for a dry scalp. Just rub some on about 30 minutes before you wash and it should give some moisture to it =] it worked for me anyway (loose and locked hair).

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Ok i think i'm just gonna use the BS/ACV less frequent. It cleanse pretty well but it is indeed too harsh for my scalp.

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Hi everybody,

These are my babylocks. Theyre almost 3 weeks old. Ive started my journey on December 23^rdin guess what.. a SALON! I have absolutely NO regrets, it was totally worth the money. There was no shady vibe, like oh we gonna rip this boy of and no wax was used.

The proces was started by backcombing/braiding/twist n riping. The sections are not squared, but theyre c-sectioned (moreround) and not the same size.I have approximately 111 locks.

My locks are kinda curly, especially some of the ends. But in the back the curled ends are getting 'sucked' into the dread and the tip feels more blunted.

After 2 weeks though, my locks are getting more flat. Is this just a stage? or do i need to palmroll it to guide it more in a cylindrical shape?

After a few days I wet my hair, I was so afraid that it would unravel.Fortunately it didnt. Ive also noticed that my hair has shrunk. The day I got my dreads started, my hair was touching the top of my shoulder, but now i's a few cm shorter. My hair also was wider/poofy the 1^stday, but now it is more compact.

I sleep with a satin hat thing (dreadcap.com), which is great. They also have sent me a second dreadcap, free! My hair looks neat after i sleep with it. Its a decent price (10$).

Ive washed my hair twice with BC/AVC + tea tree oil+ lavender oil+ lemongrass (smells really good!).
HOWEVER, Im not allergic to any of the essential oils (tested it on my skin,before I would use it) but after I washed with BC/AVC my hair feels really good but my scalp is so dry, that it turned white after washing and also part of my forehead (its not dandruff I think). Ive put some aloe vera on it but it doesnt really seem to help.

The first time I thought, maybe the concentration of BS is too high(30gr/L), so the nextwash I diluted it more (20gr/L), but theres no difference. Do some of you have the same problem after BC/AVC?

So I ordered Dr. Bronner peppermint because Ive readcomplaints about an oily residue, but I think that it is beneficial for a dryscalp?. I'll use it in a couple of days to see if it makes any difference.

So let me know what you think about my dreads, dry scalp problem and some of the flat dreads.

Jerry

updated by @jerry: 01/13/15 08:53:23PM

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Hi,

I'm not paranoid about what the salon may do because i will be in charge of that. Maybe it is different from the salons you're familliar with, but if i say: do A, they do A. If they 'recommend' B and i say NO i want A, i will get A. The salons you talk about sound pretty agressive, concluding from your oppinion/stories about it. And I totally agree that people should avoid those salons! However......You make it sound like once you enter a salon, you're subjected to their will. But that is not the case with my salon.
And also it will not cost me several hundred bucks (well, euros in my case). Moreover, the price includes 1 maintanence. They actually encouraged me to maintain my dreads myself. But i still have to decide on a method. They do twisting or backcombing.

But thanks for all the advice you gave me. I hope I do not come across ass agressive or rude, I just display my thoughts. And react on the thoughts of others.

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soaringeagle said:

if your paranoid u should be paranoid about what a salon will do to u
dread perms (ewwwww) interlocking completely smothering u in wax hell theress even 1 that used liquid latex instead of wax
1 salons pictures had a woman with liberty spike dreads standing straight up 2 feet! with hugbe huge wisde sections and tapering to poointy tips

i guarantee if u go to a salon and waste several hundred bucks that u will be starting over the right way the next dayt..unfortunately some salons cause perme ant harm that u cannot recover from without shaving and starting over

when u do your own u will have dreads to be proud of
especialy if u just let nature do em for u

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I guess i could consider it. But i'm still paranoid :P haha

O'Callaghan said:

hahaha if your concerned about the back of your head just kidnap a friend for the day! My super wonderful mother did 99% of my dreads for me :D i LOVE my mum! It's pretty easy, if you read up here about section size and work it out to the thickness you'd like your dreads to be, and just go from there

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I kinda like physics to a certain extend so I like the fact that you explained it from a physics point of view.But if you interlock the hair loosely and leave 1 cm (~0.4 inch) of newgroth 'uninterlocked', is it still that damaging because you don't 'force your roots'. Wouldn't the tension around the roots be minimal that way?

soaringeagle said:

let me explain what interlocking is and why its 1 of the dumbest things u can do to dreads

a healthy dread the root section is the same size as the dread itself when mature
interlocking takes the dread, puts a gap in the roots and forces the dread through pulling it out the other side

now from a physics perspective thats forcing those roots on either side to twist 180 degrees while being pressed outward
that causes a extreme weakness at that ooint..that cannot ever be repaired or recovered from
if that weak poingt becomes weakened further it can break or hankg on by a few hairs that tension will make it want to "pop" loose


in adition interlocking stops dreading..the hair at the roots nee4ds a loose gap to move and alow dreading interlocking removes that movement room so you no longer dread u instead force it to look dreaded with a series of weak points that create a weak dread


theres a reason we have a salon dread recovery group on here.. out of every 1 of our members who started dreads in a salon..only 1 said she didnt regrert it (and shes a famouse tv star and model so odviosly can go to the best in the world...and they still screwed her with wax)

theres not a salon in the world id ever let touch my dreads..even if they paid me 10000 times what they charge
i have never seen 1 do a decent job andnot really screw em up

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'As to the original post. Bro i am halfrican american myself and can tell you what i have been doing.1. Throw the pic away2. Shampoo with organic soap shampoo bar made for dreads once or twice a week. No conditioner.3. Hot oil treatment once a week with jojoba oil. Excellent. for dry african type hair.4. Wait.I am stopped picking the first week of november and already my hair is matted and sectioning off. I was going to get twists originally like you, cause they do look good for our hair type. But deciding to go natural was a liberating decision, one which my hair is taking to quite happily. I know you want some "clean" looking dreads, but you can also achieve this with natural you just gotta seperate them into the proper sections once its locked and let the hair do the rest. Not trying to change your mind but seeing the progression of your hair is a rewarding experience bruh, for real.'I appreciate your comment.However im not shure about 'freeform' them. But maybe you can convince me: do you have a pic of your hair the way it is now (and maybe a before shot)?.