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JavaLizard
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Nice timeline and great dreads!

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 11:47:59AM
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Yep you are so right, I guess my pictures didn't upload, cause I cut off a dread, and it was full of hair, not wax.

soaring eagle said:

a hair dryer and paper towel only gets a lil oiut if wayt too much was used and only from the surface while melting it into the core


JavaLizard said:

Wow, I do think I said hair dryer and paper towels too, but I like to get stuck on one point and just ignore the rest, so I understand.

For me, pictures are added, poor dread got chopped, I used a blow dryer, paper towels and hot water... did not use dread or knotty, I was simply referring to the instructions on their website, but you know I said hot water so that's just gotta be my stance.
Rustdust said:

DreadheadHQ wax has two types of wax in it,

Beeswax is oily or greasy heat-sensitive substance, consisting of hydrocarbons or esters of fatty acids that are INSOLUBLE IN WATER.When cold it is brittle at ordinary temperatures it is tenacious; its fracture is dry and granular.

The other type of wax is Microcrystalline wax and is a type of wax produced by de-oiling petrolatum, as part of the petroleum refining process and again is INSOLUBLE IN WATER.

Beeswax has melting point range of 62 to 64 C (144 to 147 F) and then it becomes viscous or a low viscosity liquid.

Microcrystalline wax has a melt point of 140-175 F (60 - 80 oC) and then it becomes viscous a low viscosity liquid.

So if you think hot water removes WAX then think again ... or I will see ya in the burns unit at your local hospital.

JavaLizard said:

Your math is pretty bad, to wax a dread 24" long you would need 14g for the first waxing. Now they highly suggest not using more, but one could use less

Now lets talk wax, just pure wax. We make candles at home and I know one thing about it, if you want it gone, one must use heat, and lots of it. Dealing with theory, if one puts minimal wax in, heats it, blots it, heats again and uses very hot water, wax will come out. Now the bigger question is, " who would want to go through that much?"

But when talking dreads we are talking genetics, environments etc.. Your hair dreaded quickly, then there are guys on here with 1 year plus still with no dreads. What is fairness would be to meet up with these other guys and do some dread examination. By human factor, many people damage their hair, but is the human error the reason for methods being bad? Bleach and Ammonia make an excellent gopher chaser, so does pumping a hole full of propane...but human error can take these risky things and kill ya!

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 11:45:47AM
89 posts

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I had three inches of hair that was undone, when I started, and wax was used before I redid everything,

And no I don't crochet, the lady who did my hair gave me one, and if you would read I tried to use it on the dread that was cut off.

What are you not getting?

soaring eagle said:

no you dont bash people yet call me prick in every sentence?

dude..your wrong

and yes they were nicely rounded and loose ccayse u wxed them into place

and you crochetted too?

why arent you getting this?


JavaLizard said:

You said one dread, but I digress.

You are also assuming the length of total dreads, then that still leaves you some to spare in the provided tub

Yep my wax is in my brain, so much so that I at least try to not bash every one. And since your such a freakin gem I went ahead and cut a dread off, and no wax, and since you know so much about ethnic hair and how it cannot possibly do anything than what you say, my dreads are so stinking loose, and my ends are not nicely rounded, and well wait they are.

Before you were kind enough to be a prick and add insult I was going to say brand new dreads would be the only time sticking something in would be feasible. After that dreads need to be left alone. But to be such a prick about things, throwing out statistics that are your own and all that, come on. You got the site, you got tons of good info, why ruin it by being a prick?


soaring eagle said:

oh and your maths actualy off your saying 14 g for 1 dread

so times 40 dreads ..thats 500 g 560 actually 450 is a pound

theres 4 oz per jar

16 oz per pound

like i said 4 jars per single applicatuon

now jony claimed my math was wrong becaus a 1 inch dread has a 4 inch base (lies) and would mean only 8 dreads per head

see how you have to use weird math to make sence of jonnys overwaxing thoeries?


JavaLizard said:

Your math is pretty bad, to wax a dread 24" long you would need 14g for the first waxing. Now they highly suggest not using more, but one could use less

Now lets talk wax, just pure wax. We make candles at home and I know one thing about it, if you want it gone, one must use heat, and lots of it. Dealing with theory, if one puts minimal wax in, heats it, blots it, heats again and uses very hot water, wax will come out. Now the bigger question is, " who would want to go through that much?"

But when talking dreads we are talking genetics, environments etc.. Your hair dreaded quickly, then there are guys on here with 1 year plus still with no dreads. What is fairness would be to meet up with these other guys and do some dread examination. By human factor, many people damage their hair, but is the human error the reason for methods being bad? Bleach and Ammonia make an excellent gopher chaser, so does pumping a hole full of propane...but human error can take these risky things and kill ya!

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 11:43:48AM
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First, off once you start calling names yes I return the favor, and it is lockscullpta, in either case the was sarcasm, I thought the playful misspelling would show that.

And no tantrum, if you would refrain from bashing then there would be no need, discussion is one thing, but to say the wax went to my brain, that's a proper screw you

soaring eagle said:

dude your proving yourself an idiot

the lock docta looks interesting? jonny cleand videos are informative? he contradicts himself every other sentence

the lock docta can literaly turn a dread to powder its a felting needle that breaks every hair it touckhes into tiny peices then mashes them together into a felt

a felt can be pulled apasrt with fingers easily

on the lock docta page it says "poke with care too much poking can cause the dread to break, but dont worrt, poke too much and all you got to do is poke some more to reatach it

tratach? by a shredded weakened mangled joint where no hairs intact longer then 1/4 inch?

yea why do u believe the lies

the products were tested 'theres 5 thousand victims of the products here

only an idiot would expect better results

(and yes my math was corect why the tantrum?)


JavaLizard said:

SE here is a fair, WTF?!

First I never said I was pro wax, and to assume a person has 24" of backcombed hair, hell, they would be the world most patient and pain tolerant person. I simply said your math is off, you don't have to get all "mathematician" , I just don't get you, your brashness for just a phrase. Yep you are right my dreads will never harden I will have wax til I die they will... oh wait I can barely poke anything in mine, damn shame. So what I did is cut off part of my dread and here are the results. No wax, hardest little bugger to undo. Got the old crochet hook I was given, and went to town, my skin on my finger... it a broke, the hairs, didn't. Also is included is the end still attached to my head. Bottom line is I AM NOT PRO WAX, yeah the stuff is hard to get out, but don't just bash the wax, don't forget the person(s) putting it on.

And as for scalding your hair, never said to do that, just sharing what their instructions say. For me three days after I had wax in I got a hair dryer, paper towels, washed three times. It wasn't dreadhead, or knottyboy, I can't speak on those other than their instructions. And theoretically.

Why do I believe such lies? Sorry forgot you are the guru of product testing and development. Again realm of speaking not endorsing. Theirs is thinner, has a different tip and smaller hook, and they a got such a nice love-u-ly videeeooos. But seriously the product...dreaddocta(?), looks fairly interesting. And my toothbrush is freaking inventive as all get out! I got it a cool little Japanese drug store, it tells me where I missed, and transforms and cleans itself. But no really it is different, and sometimes slight variations make a huge difference, people can believe that in the theory of evolution.

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 11:04:20AM
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Then Doggie what about neglect people who get mold and rot? That has happened on here recently.

It can't be that dirty people give dreads a bad reputation? Honestly you mention dreads to most people they think dirty hippie. Bad reputations come from more than wax

Again I am amazed I never said I was pro wax, I am pro instructions. But thanks for your rant

Doogie said:

When ANYONE tells u that u need to wax needs to redo their math and get dreaducated! Wax prevents hair from dreading. It's messy, nasty and almost next to impossible to completely remove without shaving ur head! Wax is nothing but problems and a waste of money. Don't listen to those damn YouTube videos about maintenance cause all they are doing is destroying theirs along with many others. All u need to do is wash and separate! It's not that hard to do, seriously! Dreads have been around for thousands of years and long before man created the comb and all that other crap ppl are putting in there dreads! If u think u need wax, crotchet hook, palm rolling and so on then u should really rethink ur dreads. Wax holds water in ur dreads making it impossible to completely dry which cause more problems like dread rot and a funky ass smell. Wax is why dreadlocks have such a bad reputation. That and ppl who swear ur not supposed to wash ur dreads!
JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 11:03:13AM
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You said one dread, but I digress.

You are also assuming the length of total dreads, then that still leaves you some to spare in the provided tub

Yep my wax is in my brain, so much so that I at least try to not bash every one. And since your such a freakin gem I went ahead and cut a dread off, and no wax, and since you know so much about ethnic hair and how it cannot possibly do anything than what you say, my dreads are so stinking loose, and my ends are not nicely rounded, and well wait they are.

Before you were kind enough to be a prick and add insult I was going to say brand new dreads would be the only time sticking something in would be feasible. After that dreads need to be left alone. But to be such a prick about things, throwing out statistics that are your own and all that, come on. You got the site, you got tons of good info, why ruin it by being a prick?


soaring eagle said:

oh and your maths actualy off your saying 14 g for 1 dread

so times 40 dreads ..thats 500 g 560 actually 450 is a pound

theres 4 oz per jar

16 oz per pound

like i said 4 jars per single applicatuon

now jony claimed my math was wrong becaus a 1 inch dread has a 4 inch base (lies) and would mean only 8 dreads per head

see how you have to use weird math to make sence of jonnys overwaxing thoeries?


JavaLizard said:

Your math is pretty bad, to wax a dread 24" long you would need 14g for the first waxing. Now they highly suggest not using more, but one could use less

Now lets talk wax, just pure wax. We make candles at home and I know one thing about it, if you want it gone, one must use heat, and lots of it. Dealing with theory, if one puts minimal wax in, heats it, blots it, heats again and uses very hot water, wax will come out. Now the bigger question is, " who would want to go through that much?"

But when talking dreads we are talking genetics, environments etc.. Your hair dreaded quickly, then there are guys on here with 1 year plus still with no dreads. What is fairness would be to meet up with these other guys and do some dread examination. By human factor, many people damage their hair, but is the human error the reason for methods being bad? Bleach and Ammonia make an excellent gopher chaser, so does pumping a hole full of propane...but human error can take these risky things and kill ya!

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 10:55:14AM
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Man I feel horrible for your daughter, how hard are you brushing her hair? Neither of my kids, one has 12" of hair the other 30", they lose hair, but I have never broke their hair, even those big knots at the end of the day. ( I say never I am sure it has happened, but to what extent is to little that I can't remember) Now my wife breaks hair left and right, and the kids always request she not do their hair. For fun I will ask a couple of friends whose kids have thick thick African American hair as opposed to bi racial hair and see how that works for them. For me from 6th grade to my senior year I always had longer hair, never damaged a comb or what not, my sister didn't either ( yeah I used to combs and brushes)

Rustdust said:

Crochet needle has come about a far as the toothbrush, justre marketednothing more.

Icrocheted my dreads for about the first 7 months and it was pointless, It would look neater and then a week or so latter it was back to the way it was .... pointless.

You say "Then people combing their hair or teasing it should break hair by the same logic."

well it does break, I can go and get my daughter's hair brush and thebristleshave broken hair all over it!



JavaLizard said:

SE the crochet needle has come a very long ways, you assume that hairs break each and every time. And for a needle to break hair every time it enters...really? Then people combing their hair or teasing it should break hair by the same logic. Our hair is quite strong. And depending on who does them and how yes lots of damage can be done. Dreadheadhq has a really nifty needle. It also is why are you doing it. Are you just grabbing a few hairs to pull in, once, or are you constantly grooming trying to get perfect locks every week.

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 10:49:43AM
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Wow, I do think I said hair dryer and paper towels too, but I like to get stuck on one point and just ignore the rest, so I understand.

For me, pictures are added, poor dread got chopped, I used a blow dryer, paper towels and hot water... did not use dread or knotty, I was simply referring to the instructions on their website, but you know I said hot water so that's just gotta be my stance.
Rustdust said:

DreadheadHQ wax has two types of wax in it,

Beeswax is oily or greasy heat-sensitive substance, consisting of hydrocarbons or esters of fatty acids that are INSOLUBLE IN WATER.When cold it is brittle at ordinary temperatures it is tenacious; its fracture is dry and granular.

The other type of wax is Microcrystalline wax and is a type of wax produced by de-oiling petrolatum, as part of the petroleum refining process and again is INSOLUBLE IN WATER.

Beeswax has melting point range of 62 to 64 C (144 to 147 F) and then it becomes viscous or a low viscosity liquid.

Microcrystalline wax has a melt point of 140-175 F (60 - 80 oC) and then it becomes viscous a low viscosity liquid.

So if you think hot water removes WAX then think again ... or I will see ya in the burns unit at your local hospital.

JavaLizard said:

Your math is pretty bad, to wax a dread 24" long you would need 14g for the first waxing. Now they highly suggest not using more, but one could use less

Now lets talk wax, just pure wax. We make candles at home and I know one thing about it, if you want it gone, one must use heat, and lots of it. Dealing with theory, if one puts minimal wax in, heats it, blots it, heats again and uses very hot water, wax will come out. Now the bigger question is, " who would want to go through that much?"

But when talking dreads we are talking genetics, environments etc.. Your hair dreaded quickly, then there are guys on here with 1 year plus still with no dreads. What is fairness would be to meet up with these other guys and do some dread examination. By human factor, many people damage their hair, but is the human error the reason for methods being bad? Bleach and Ammonia make an excellent gopher chaser, so does pumping a hole full of propane...but human error can take these risky things and kill ya!

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 10:47:10AM
89 posts

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I can dig what you dug. At no point did I say I was pro, I'm sure if you gob it on it is hard as wax to get out.

Some hair types do allow for instant, nay, assisted, dreads to work and last.

And some people like the mess on their heads, many many others don't:) Personality things and all. Some people think SE dreads are better than Popeyes chicken, and we all know Little Nicky endorse that, others.. well, don't care for them at all. But it is no big deal at the end of the day, its still dead stuff.

Tara C said:

The thing is, the actual fact of the matter, based on my own experiment and many other people's, is wax is super hard to get out. Does it eventually come out? Yeah, sure it does if you find a way to get it out. But there are also people that waxed a few times and never again, and years later after washing their dreads as normal, still find wax in them. If wax was not almost impossible to get out, no-one here would be bashing it. Alright, people might still be saying it isn't as good as the natural method, but it wouldn't be harmful, nonetheless.

And yet it is. It's difficult to wash out, so even if it were to wash out in five washes, you're always five washes behind, you always have wax in your dreads waiting to wash out, during which time it's trapping dirt and moisture. You'd increase the risk of getting mold because of it. And despite all that, what are the benefits? Well, none. It makes them look neater I guess, but actual dread benefits? Zero. They don't dread much; they can't. They admit this on their site by telling you to manually create knots by backcombing, counter-clockwise rubbing(?) and whatever else. You have to create the knots yourself and then use wax to keep the knots in place. Why do they tell you to create the knots? Because wax doesn't allow for the creation of knots. It just keeps the hair in place so it's unable to move around freely and tangle. If you don't believe this, think of it this way: clean hair dreads better than unwashed hair. Why is this? Because greasy hair can't move around each other as well as clean hair, therefore, tangling can't really happen in greasy hair.

With wax, you create the knots yourself, and then stick them in place, so to speak. Which is pointless, and because the wax hardens, it makes you feel like you have mature, tight dreads when you really don't.

JavaLizard
@JavaLizard
12/18/13 10:42:19AM
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Very interesting, so people who take a step are less spiritual and need a void filled? Or, perhaps they have a job, or, little things in life are not this spiritual path journey. It is possible for a person to have spiritual hair and journey yet be quite rude and fill their life with things to attempt.....Honestly it is a good thought, but if we boast all are individual, all have a spiritual path, all have their own.. then to say how a person proceeds to a step that something so fleeting as hair can take or if they take one path over another... doesn't make one any better but rather elitist.

I had help sectioning mine, then I undid them all and tnr, but my place in life is different than it was 20 years ago. Quite often I think about just free forming next time, then I laugh because next time probably isn't going to happen for so long! And by that time Dreadlocks may not be apart of my life either. But that's ok. Some people are shallow and care what they look like to enough of a small degree that they want to have hair distinguishable as new dreadlocks as opposed to a mess, they are so shallow (yeah sarcasm)

Bottom line is if the expression is love, acceptance, freedom, then looking down on others doesn't really convey that message, you picking up what I'm throwing down?

Casey Fay said:

I am not an expert, but I wonder if some people who want instant dreads choose ashortcut to life. This would mandate creating your dreads instead of letting them happen. Waxing,crocheting,maintaining on a schedule.I have found when people try to manipulate their life, it is to fill a need. Maybe seeking to be spiritual, they want it instantly thus instant dreads.. People who let their lives develop without interfering, our like those who let their dreads develop on there own. All the messiness, loops, rejection, doubt,just help us grow as a person. Not perfect, just who we are meant to be.I don't think instant dreads are wrong,they just don't last.They miss the best part. Sitting back in the wonderment and beauty of it all.

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