paganism in a christian society
@torie-shea
13 years ago
52 posts
updated by @torie-shea: 02/04/18 02:55:49AM
@torie-shea
13 years ago
52 posts
@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,637 posts
who says its a christian society? oh yea the christuians who creatted christian sociaety by forcing others to convert under threat of torture death dismemberment or burning at the stake
yea they insist its a christian socierty to the point where no politician has a hope of even being alowed to run if they arent christian or at least jewish
but is it a christian society?
i swear i know 10 wicans and pagans for every 1 christian
5 buddhist s
probably 20 whod just say they are spiritual
and 50 athiasts or agnostics
yea they make the most noise
pusgh their agendas loudly
throw up bilboards and crosses and roadsigns and whatever everywhere u look
but just cause they seek the power does that mean they run the society?
(several will step in and protestloudly im sure) but i bet if we took a poll it would be pretty clear that its not a christian society just cause they claim t is
but ok me personaly im more n philosohy
with just a touch of buddhist and well ..personaly ..i believe theres trurth in everything and lies in everythung
theres 1000 diferent religions
each religions broken up into 1000 sects each sect believes someteach sect contains 1000 churches each church teaches the belief their uique way each church contains 1000 people each person takes those teachingas and believes them their own unique way
so even though every religion claims theyre way is the only way ..every way is a billion digfferent ways
so if every billion different way is the right way
uisnt it more likely every single 1 is wroing?
or
maybe they are all right for seeking whats right
does it matter so much that u can say u were right? or maybe irs just he seeeking that truly matters
for that reason i go on seeking
and never getting stuck in what any1 tells me is the 1 and only truth
cause i have thought lomng and hard about each and not 1 makes a bit of sense (i know how dare you think about religion your suposed to just believe wihout thought)
that was quite the rant but ok u mentined the atom
matter cannot be craeatted or destroyed only change state
god always existed and creatted all that is
god is in everything and is everywhere
matter= god
in the begining there was nothingness and with a words all was creatted the word is om
the sound of creation the vibration of the universe the sound the universe continues to make as it expands
in the begining all matter was comprssed to a single point in space a super molicule encosed in this molicule was the design of everything
all the universe compressed into a single point under incerdible pressure the bonds broke and the big bang creatted everything all the matter spreads out recombning into the basic elements which combine into molicules which create protein strands and dna and life
god is in all these things because all these things are made of the ame substance of god
look at theeartgh the universe cant u feel the divinity in it?
yet christiandom says we have dominion over this all its purs to use and abuse and destroy
there was a senator ho would vote against all atempts to stop greenhouse gasses ..his reasons the bible says we will not be detroyed by anoher flood so we dont gotta worry about melting icecaps so drill baby drill
the biggest sin there is is the destruction of what was created for us (or even to believe it was creatted for us alone)
ok this has been a long enough rant i think i had a point here somewhere
maybe the point is
society doesnt need religions to survive but we do need the earth to survive
so by respecting the earth and nature maybe rthe pagans did have it right
that was a long rant
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@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,637 posts
good point so many ppl spend all theyre lives worrying about an afterlife that they forget to live the only life they got
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@soaring-eagle
13 years ago
29,637 posts
but i do think this should have been started here
http://forums.dreadlockssite.com/index.php
cause this could be a pretty involved discussion that we might not want clggin up the front page for weeks or months
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@hippiegal
13 years ago
182 posts
Thanks for the opener. I've also explored many religions and found much to like and disagree with among them. There's a lot of wisdom in the holy books, but I can't accept any one as totally infallible to the letter. I feel closest to spirit in nature. It's where I go to commune with the God, Goddess, the Great Spirit. Nature gives us both material and spiritual sustenance, yet it can also bring disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis...
So are humans just another species that nature has created, or is there more to us? If we are all one, all equally created in God's image, why do we argue, fight, and even kill to defend our various definitions of God and truth? Being an atheist might seem easier, but then there's the question: what was there before the Big Bang?
From what I know of Wicca, it's a lovely way to celebrate nature and the seasons, yet it doesn't seem to have any stand on these questions. Perhaps that's a good thing. As you said, who can know everything.
Religion is about power, always was and always will be. I studied the bible for many years and came to the conclusion that every bible based religion does not know there bible but then again there are many version of the bible and even in the bible itself there are many versions of Christianity. What we call the 4 gospels where not meant to be together. There is no way in knowing who wrote them they where all written at different times ( between 100 and 300 years after Christ)and different places by people that did not know each other and they all paint a different picture of Christ and Christianity.
One more thing why do most westerners when they think of god they see him (I say him because most see god as male) as being loving all powerful and all knowing yet all these qualities contradict themselves for one and second why is it not possible that god is evil incompetent and stupid?
@torie-shea
13 years ago
52 posts
@gratefulnick
13 years ago
155 posts
I'm kind of at odds with religion.
Like what if there is no god? like there really isn't any proof that he/she exist, but many ppl believe in god and there faith in god helps them through their life. I do believe
I was talking the other day to this girl that worships satan, and she was like I don't believe in god. So I was like how can you believe in satan when you don't believe in god, because satan really wouldn't exist if god doesnt exist.
I don't imagine god being this big dude looking down from the clouds, I just see god as this constant energy in all living things and the earth.
It's kind of sad that people get so much grief for just believing in what they want.
@heathen-hippie-o
13 years ago
164 posts
I was raised Roman Catholic but there were too many things that didn't add up to me. Mostly ancient species, like dinosaurs and such. The great flood. And Genesis... sooo many things about Genesis don't add up. My sister was Wiccan and though she's Mormon now [go figure lol] I leaned a little bit toward what I learned from her. It still sticks with me no matter what, and I think that is because like Hippiegal, I also feel the very closest to everything ancient and holy when I am with nature. It doesn't matter if I'm cooking, baking [bread and sweets usually], harvesting herbs from my garden, planting my garden, tending it, taking a walk to work and smelling the sweet scent of the dirt and leaves and pine needles... I love to celebrate the seasons, too. :D I'm just a pagan in general but Wicca gives me structure, if that makes any sense. I also feel there are both truth and lies in everything, and right now there is a battle between the lies of Christianity and the lies of every other belief system on this planet. Well, in America, anyway. Many people believe our society is Christian, our government is Christian, everybody needs to adhere to Christian principles.... I disagree. Again, there are truth and lies in everything, and this is why everyone needs to have the freedom to believe and practice as they so choose. Although you will not see me celebrating *Christian* holidays such as Christmas or Halloween or Easter, but rather Yule, Samhain, and... well ok that last one is Easter, too. :D
updated by @heathen-hippie-o: 02/14/15 06:08:58PM